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Old 12-13-2019 | 08:54 PM
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Hi guys,

Does SWA do CDO / high speed / stand up trips where you take the last flight out, sleep and then do the first flight back to the hub the next day, all within the same duty period?

If so, how are the trips built? Are they ever built into a longer pairing? Does it pay 2 days (or duty periods)? Is there any override for this kind of trip? Any other contractual protection?

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Old 12-13-2019 | 09:05 PM
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As Timmay said, “nope”.

We have 1day, 2day, 3day and 4day trips. The majority are 3days, and all are built into either AM’s (start early and finish early) or PM’s (start later and finish later). We bid for an AM line or PM line
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OTH, we taxi at V1 like we’re rushing to the hotel for a five hour rest, even if we’re 20 early and the gate’s occupied.

On a more serious note, I do like the trip mixes and the am/pm philosophy. But the ams seem to be getting earlier, the later and the days longer, probably because of the max situation.
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OTH, we taxi at V1 like we’re rushing to the hotel for a five hour rest, even if we’re 20 early and the gate’s occupied.
Not all of us
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Not all of us
And I sincerely appreciate those that don’t.
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
And I sincerely appreciate those that don’t.
Totally unprofessional to be throwing PAX & FAs around back there, not to mention all the taxiway “excursions” that this has caused at SWA.
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Totally unprofessional to be throwing PAX & FAs around back there, not to mention all the taxiway “excursions” that this has caused at SWA.
.....👍.....

Any other airline gets violated or at least warned about taxi speeds. I wonder how it has become the norm here?
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Awesome, let's turn the thread into a let's hate ourselves group. Trendy but boring.
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
.....👍.....

Any other airline gets violated or at least warned about taxi speeds. I wonder how it has become the norm here?
Most airlines have FOQA. Exceeding recommended taxi speeds on the ground generates a FOQA event. Boeing’s taxi speeds are 30 knots on long straight segments, 15 knots for turns, 10 knots for 90 degree or greater turns.
I have no idea if SWA looks at this with their FOQA program.
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