10-15 Years Left to fly, Stay or go?
01-13-2020, 03:45 PM
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10-15 Years Left to fly, Stay or go?
Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yeah, but reserve in LGA....hard pass on that garbage.....what's the stats on jr NB CA in DFW, LAX, and ORD?
DFW 5 years, but you’d have to be willing to fly the 737. Hard pass on that garbage lol
LAX is maybe 4.5 years. ORD much more senior.
01-13-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yeah, but reserve in LGA....hard pass on that garbage.....what's the stats on jr NB CA in DFW, LAX, and ORD?
01-13-2020, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yeah, but reserve in LGA....hard pass on that garbage.....what's the stats on jr NB CA in DFW, LAX, and ORD?
01-13-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
how does every other airline award new captain positions? Straight into a line holder in the most desirable base?
It's all about choice. If you're willing to commute to the "worst" base and do reserve, you generally have the option of upgrading sooner than people who prefer to wait until their choice of base is available or they have the seniority to hold a line. Which is why I asked what the upgrade time was in bases off of the East coast. I consider a 3 yr upgrade to sit RSV in LGA while having to cover EWR and also JFK not even remotely close to worth it...especially since I commute from the Mountain time zone. If your commute is shorter or you live in the NYC area, it would probably be appealing.
For SWA: I won't bid OAK or LAX for SWA. Especially won't bid the Etops bid group because that means a 6 month lock in either of those 2 bases. And it'd be easier here than at AA, DL, UAL since we don't have to cover multiple bases. I still wouldn't bid it. I'd call a 3 yr upgrade an outlier since it went that junior for a reason....if a majority bypass it, it should tell you something.
01-13-2020, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
It's all about choice. If you're willing to commute to the "worst" base and do reserve, you generally have the option of upgrading sooner than people who prefer to wait until their choice of base is available or they have the seniority to hold a line. Which is why I asked what the upgrade time was in bases off of the East coast. I consider a 3 yr upgrade to sit RSV in LGA while having to cover EWR and also JFK not even remotely close to worth it...especially since I commute from the Mountain time zone. If your commute is shorter or you live in the NYC area, it would probably be appealing.
For SWA: I won't bid OAK or LAX for SWA. Especially won't bid the Etops bid group because that means a 6 month lock in either of those 2 bases. And it'd be easier here than at AA, DL, UAL since we don't have to cover multiple bases. I still wouldn't bid it. I'd call a 3 yr upgrade an outlier since it went that junior for a reason....if a majority bypass it, it should tell you something.
For SWA: I won't bid OAK or LAX for SWA. Especially won't bid the Etops bid group because that means a 6 month lock in either of those 2 bases. And it'd be easier here than at AA, DL, UAL since we don't have to cover multiple bases. I still wouldn't bid it. I'd call a 3 yr upgrade an outlier since it went that junior for a reason....if a majority bypass it, it should tell you something.
You are definitely right about choices though. Being a 737 CA is not the career crescendo for an AA pilot, therefore you see it get passed up for a variety of reasons. Some might just want to stay on the more comfortable Airbus, and are willing to wait another year or so to upgrade. Some enjoy their seniority. Some won’t commute (me). Some might want to become a partially retired food critic on the 777/787/330 (also me). Either way, whatever the case, having an option to bid a 737 CA position in less than three years is not a negative.
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01-13-2020, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
First, I wouldn’t recommend anyone leave SWA to chase a a job elsewhere because of retirements. If you’re not satisfied at SWA, chances are you have one of those personalities where the grass is always greener. You may regret your decision.
You are definitely right about choices though. Being a 737 CA is not the career crescendo for an AA pilot, therefore you see it get passed up for a variety of reasons. Some might just want to stay on the more comfortable Airbus, and are willing to wait another year or so to upgrade. Some enjoy their seniority. Some won’t commute (me). Some might want to become a partially retired food critic on the 777/787 (also me). Either way, whatever the case, having an option to bid a 737 CA position in less than three years is not a negative.
You are definitely right about choices though. Being a 737 CA is not the career crescendo for an AA pilot, therefore you see it get passed up for a variety of reasons. Some might just want to stay on the more comfortable Airbus, and are willing to wait another year or so to upgrade. Some enjoy their seniority. Some won’t commute (me). Some might want to become a partially retired food critic on the 777/787 (also me). Either way, whatever the case, having an option to bid a 737 CA position in less than three years is not a negative.
01-13-2020, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yeah, but reserve in LGA....hard pass on that garbage.....what's the stats on jr NB CA in DFW, LAX, and ORD?
People bypass for any number of reasons... Schedule, WB pay being close enough, basing...... The Northeast is basically the most populated area in the country. I'd bet it's not the location that's necessarliy the problem.. Could be the trips, schedule, a/c based there etc.
Last I remember EWR is not an AA base, and who knows how many 737's fly out of JFK? Exactly how much coverage are you talking about when you mention "covering those bases?"
What is the time to hold MCO Captain?
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