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Grumpyaviator 04-08-2020 01:30 PM

Or there are no longer flights to commute on.

THEKERNALKLINK 04-10-2020 06:29 PM

Let's make a deal sucka!
 

Originally Posted by DHC8DRV (Post 3012603)
Compared to the offer AA got, this doesn’t even come close. For where I’m at, 5 year FO pay its $3000 less a month.

AA offer of 55 hours a month at 169/hr = $9300
SW offer of 44TFP a month at 143/tfp = $6300

Maybe they think SWAG points will make up for it!!

If this doesn't turn around by June, their won't be an AAL, so they can offer anything they want, they aren't going to have to pay it. They could offer a kabillion zillion dollars per day if they want, nobody will see a dime once the company is on it's butt.

ZapBrannigan 04-11-2020 03:16 AM

American Airlines isn't going anywhere. They may furlough, enter bankruptcy, emerge lean and mean, but you're fooling yourself if you think that they're going out of business.


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Timmay 04-12-2020 03:22 PM

Who's going to be the Lehman Bros or Bear Stearns of the airlines when the bottom drops out? While major banks were bailed out in '08, there were a couple that cratered before the government stepped in. Or do you think taxpayers are going to be on the hook for all the airlines?

FL370esq 04-12-2020 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 3030712)
Who's going to be the Lehman Bros or Bear Stearns of the airlines when the bottom drops out? While major banks were bailed out in '08, there were a couple that cratered before the government stepped in. Or do you think taxpayers are going to be on the hook for all the airlines?

Delta.....they have no plan and are in scheduling chaos.

at6d 04-12-2020 04:31 PM

Well, we have six months of certain survivability based on snapshot of today. In 12 months of worst case status quo, SWA is gone.

4V14T0R 04-12-2020 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3030767)
Well, we have six months of certain survivability based on snapshot of today. In 12 months of worst case status quo, SWA is gone.


Why would you think this? IMO, if SWA is gone so are many others. They by far have the most dense network domestically, the best balance sheet, and credit rating. So, I'm honestly curious why you think this.


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hoover 04-12-2020 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 3030787)
Why would you think this? IMO, if SWA is gone so are many others. They by far have the most dense network domestically, the best balance sheet, and credit rating. So, I'm honestly curious why you think this.


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because Gary has said this very frankly several times.

docav8tor 04-13-2020 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3030863)
because Gary has said this very frankly several times.

SWA is the most financially sound carrier. Several workgroups are negotiating at this time and Gary will say just about anything to gain concessions. Gary took a 10% cut in pay due to the coronavirus while other CEOs dropped to zero. He can pack sand.

WHACKMASTER 04-13-2020 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by docav8tor (Post 3030976)
SWA is the most financially sound carrier. Several workgroups are negotiating at this time and Gary will say just about anything to gain concessions. Gary took a 10% cut in pay due to the coronavirus while other CEOs dropped to zero. He can pack sand.

Amen. He took a 10% cut of his BASE SALARY which is only a part of his total compensation package.


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