DownAndDirty

Can you guys take the political bs somewhere else? No one cares what you think is real and what isn't.

hoover

The question is at what point does the company start bringing those on Exto back? Was that ever mentioned, a block hr ratio or something?
also 20% for exto is not the same as furloughs. The 20% are still getting paid something so it would need to be a way higher number to equal the 17% furlough of AA et al

ConnectionPilot

DL has 2600 pilots strictly for international long haul. That’s A350, 330, 777, and 50% ER. That’s around 20% of their pilot group and almost the exact number of UNAs. Domestic flying will come back in a heart beat when a vaccine is out (as long as it works). You can’t shed too much if you want to win.

For us, 20% of the pilot group on ExTO or VSP is more like 10% when it comes down to monetary value. I think that’s a good number to start with and can last a solid 6 months.

Zman81

No way that number is accurate no one knows it’s under lock and key right now. I bet it’s going to be less!

poopooplatter

No, it’s not. Crew planning has it...and crew planners do have friends you know 🙂.

Zman81

It’s not going to be less you think ?

Stitches

Those numbers are pretty close to what I’m hearing and it’s slightly more than that due to some last minute submissions.

It sounds like some ETO’s may be denied as well.

REF 5

Commercial side of the business will decide this. Why do you think it's taking a week or so for them to award this? Network planning still has to decide how many flights and how many block hours they are willing to fly. About three weeks ago its was probably looking better each week. Now, not so much. Pure guessing on their part. As someone stated above you want to cut but you don't want to cut too much. Next schedule release for passengers to book should extend into the spring of 2021. I think that is in August. Which puts the company into summer season when staffing begins to come into play. Throw in the fact the SWA is burning millions a day, definitely high stress at the GO.

Next week SWA reports earnings on the 23rd. VSP/ExTO awards are on the same day. Coincidence? Probably not. SAVE, AAL, UAL and ALK all report next week. It will be ugly. Hopefully this is the bottom. DAL reported some ugly numbers. Burned 43 million a day in the quarter. Now only burning 20 million a day. Let's see what the rest of the industry says next week. I highly recommend listening to their conference calls.

HulkaBurger

24% take rate for pilots. All VSP and ExTO requests will be honored.

WHACKMASTER

What’s the source?