ExTO and VSP numbers
#61
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I’m rather disappointed on the VSP number. Assuming all 158 unconfirmed take it for a total of 687, it only moves me up 3.1% in relative seniority. Don’t mistake disappointment for ungratefulness but I sure would have loved to of seen 1000 VSPers.
Anyway, let’s hope all this is enough to stave off furloughs.
Anyway, let’s hope all this is enough to stave off furloughs.
I'm at 98% relative seniority on the entire list. Want to trade?
#62
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Oh, and I took a shorter term ExTO partly to save your ass
#63
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I was surprised they got as many VSP as they did. 1000 off the top would have been nice For sure, but very grateful for all those that are leaving. I’m no math genius, but moving up percentages in a shrinking group is tough. Hopefully we’ll all rocket up in the next few years when hiring needs to resume.
#64
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That's not true. Based on known VSPs (we'll see the final in a couple days), I move up less than 0.1%. I am also around 98%.
Edit: Thanks for taking ExTO though! Greatly appreciate it.
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#66
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Edit: Looking further, there are several fairly junior FOs I know in that same situation, either retired mil or still working reservist. Nice reposition.
#67
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
My apologies. My thinking was ass backwards. Relative seniority wise, those on the bottom of the list benefit more from hiring than those more senior while taking early outs off the top of the list benefits the very junior less in relative seniority (but obviously greatly on furlough mitigation).
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My apologies. My thinking was ass backwards. Relative seniority wise, those on the bottom of the list benefit more from hiring than those more senior while taking early outs off the top of the list benefits the very junior less in relative seniority (but obviously greatly on furlough mitigation).

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#69
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I think for the majority of the list, it will be pretty much a wash. We will see how it shakes out, but the only sweet spot that I can think of will be around the 20 to 30 percent system seniority range. Other than that, you will probably see just as many take leave above as below.
Just glad that it would appear that we have successfully headed off any furloughs for at least the medium term.
Just glad that it would appear that we have successfully headed off any furloughs for at least the medium term.


