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Originally Posted by AdmiralofRears;[url=[url

tel:3227568]3227568]Welcome to Special Unit 1221. Your Commander was applying to a factory job putting together power tools. And signed up for Door Dash.

I was actually safe by a small margin, but that meant I would’ve been two-legging it to OAK to sit reserve. I’d prefer furlough. I would’ve done as much ETO and give-away as possible and driven the truck. 😎

Would you trust this company to run a PBS system that is going to be "industry leading" or honor our contract? They have already proven that they are going to take a mile every time they smell an inch. No thank you.
PBS is a concession. Period. Dot.
It's not even up for discussion. The trust just doesn't exist between our pilot group and the company to make it a thing.

For those of you who haven't, download and read the latest reporting point (the one that discusses C2020). It's great stuff. It really puts out there what we are seeking to gain and what we have to offer the company. All this bluster about pay rates and I won't accept this and we need to get that is laid out in an easy to read, well presented, and data based format for your digestion. It's what your negotiators are seeking at the table.

SWAPA is us. It's our union. It isn't someone else. Don't let the sins of SWAPA past sully your opinion. Either educate yourselves and get involved or sit back and accept what comes your way without complaint. Anyone who was here for the last contract knows that four decades of burying our heads in the sand and letting the union and the company "meet and confer" has gotten us jack.

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot;[url=tel:3227575

3227575[/url]]Would you trust this company to run a PBS system that is going to be "industry leading" or honor our contract?

That’s what I was thinking. Let’s figure out how to sell tickets to Mexicans first.

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot;[url=tel:3227575

3227575[/url]]Would you trust this company to run a PBS system that is going to be "industry leading" or honor our contract? They have already proven that they are going to take a mile every time they smell an inch. No thank you.
PBS is a concession. Period. Dot.
It's not even up for discussion. The trust just doesn't exist between our pilot group and the company to make it a thing.

For those of you who haven't, download and read the latest reporting point (the one that discusses C2020). It's great stuff. It really puts out there what we are seeking to gain and what we have to offer the company. All this bluster about pay rates and I won't accept this and we need to get that is laid out in an easy to read, well presented, and data based format for your digestion. It's what your negotiators are seeking at the table.

SWAPA is us. It's our union. It isn't someone else. Don't let the sins of SWAPA past sully your opinion. Either educate yourselves and get involved or sit back and accept what comes your way without complaint. Anyone who was here for the last contract knows that four decades of burying our heads in the sand and letting the union and the company "meet and confer" has gotten us jack.

I don’t trust the company and that’s the main reason for my opposition to PBS here; I like the flexibility and control we have. Not to mention the fact that even if they were sincere I don’t think they have the capacity to do it well. Just look at how poorly they manage training scheduling and operational roll-outs.

btw, the union contracted the vendor, and built and managed PBS at my last company with the pairings the company built. Before the pairings went into the system the union had to approve them so they met certain QOL and credit criteria. We also did a number of preliminary bids so you could see if you needed to tweak your bid prior to closing.

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Originally Posted by AdmiralofRears (Post 3227568)

Welcome to Special Unit 1221. Your Commander was applying to a factory job putting together power tools. And signed up for Door Dash.

how was doing that door dash? Worth the time for a few extra bucks or not?

No way I’d trade our vacation for pref bid vacation (and I’ve had both).

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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3227567)

I was willing to be furloughed, not to help the company but to let them know we wouldn’t cave into their demands, Eve if it meant driving a truck. I think that’s the POV of most of us.

Same. While I wasn’t 1221, I was bottom 25%. I used the motivation to prepare for furlough. My project car fund became my furlough fund. I took a covid distribution and paid off all my debt with a reserve fund for CDL school and renewed my CFI’s.

The hiring storm is coming pending this covid BS and what the communists in office have planned.

Project car build is shelved for now. Maybe one day....

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Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3227665)

how was doing that door dash? Worth the time for a few extra bucks or not?

Never had to do it. Thank god. The Commander was busy flying his rear end off trying to save for furlough. And for the record, I’m not for PBS. But if it does happen, it’s not all doom and gloom. There will be pros and cons to it.

No PBS!!

I’ve had it at other companies before. I thought it was the best thing... until I came to SWA. Our system spanks PBS’s behind. No PBS!

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Originally Posted by Skyward;[url=tel:3228467

3228467[/url]]No PBS!!

I’ve had it at other companies before. I thought it was the best thing... until I came to SWA. Our system spanks PBS’s behind. No PBS!

true dat!!!!!!!!!