[QUOTE=Grumpyaviator;3224284]There’s no such thing as Mother Nature. There’s science, physics, biology, mathematics, etc; and a God behind it who reveals its secrets to us and therefore we are able to adapt.[/QUOTE

Well we know where Grumpy is on Sunday mornings...

Science vs Religion, the age old battle. I think it’s fair to say that’s beyond the scope of APC and would not go well at all. So let’s stick with facts.

[QUOTE=LUVisLost;[url=[url]tel:3224305]3224305]Ok fair enough. The fact is there’s no “Mother Nature” we’re trying to outwit. It’s simply human intelligence using science to solve problems, whether there is a God behind it or not.

[QUOTE=Grumpyaviator;3224315]I think it can be said with irrevocable conviction that the phrase Mother Nature is a personification of natural world problems. I would venture to hypothesize that everyone took it as such. So when I say we engineer the sh@t out of Mother Nature it means we engineer the sh&t out of natural world problems.

what else are executive rah rah blogs for than to manipulate behavior of employees? Other than manipulating stock prices for personal gain, I think that’s about their only real job. And come to think of it, manipulating employees directly contributes to stock price manipulation, so it’s really only one job.

ok. Does it invalidate LTD because its only under emergency use?

I would be shocked if it did. There have been millions of doses and, if any, only a handful of medically disqualifying results. They would have to decide if it was worth the fight To eliminate one or two or half a dozen pilots over such a rare occurrence, knowing it would probably cost the insurer the entirety of the airline industry's business after it all came out in the open.


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I didn’t dive too deep into it BUT the website does not disqualify it. I would recommend if you really are worried about it call SWAPA, number is on the benefits webpage. I’m sure they have the answer.

Interesting side note there are not a lot of disqualifiers.

I think it's odd that more people do not know the answer. Something that can cost you all the money till age 65 if you medical out on yet no one knows for sure if that'll happen.
calling SWAPA is the right idea but how come I would even have to? Why isnt this common knowledge? It is a huge factor in my decision and idk why others wouldnt be concerned either.
Just me thinking out loud. I believe everyone should make their own decisions and dont care what their why is.
Just finds me strange how hard it's being pushed yet no one really knows many answers to what if.

I have established total dominion over Mother Nature in my yard. People have rightly mistaken my St. Augustine for synthetic grass.

It’s not that I don’t know it’s that I don’t care. The risk analysis is pretty simple, I have a much greater risk of getting adverse reaction to the virus that leads to me needing LTD than the vaccine causing the same type of issue and LTD not covering me.