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Zard 03-13-2023 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 3607305)
In the East, Southwest is an airline for flying kids to Orlando to see Mickey or get to a cruise port.

In the West, Southwest is an airline for business people. Including the BUR-LAS flights.

Taking the ballet to the desert.

at6d 03-13-2023 08:21 PM

BUR-LAS Friday night is usually an interesting passenger load.

MudhammedCJ 03-13-2023 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3607320)
BUR-LAS Friday night is usually an interesting passenger load.

I think they're fully "loaded" on the return flight on Sunday.😁

Smooth at FL450 03-14-2023 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3607320)
BUR-LAS Friday night is usually an interesting passenger load.

my kind of “business”

Cyio 03-14-2023 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3607320)
BUR-LAS Friday night is usually an interesting passenger load.

A lot of "workers" for sure.

Grumpyaviator 03-15-2023 05:05 AM

Just before covid AW told our class that once CA was regained and HI was secure, we would replicate what we did in CA in the NE.

The problem now is staffing. All they have to do is approve the TA as written and problem solved.

PS. I now also want the part DAL has that says if they’re JAd beyond the footprint of their trip and they can’t get home, the company has to provide a hotel and PS home the next day.

ZapBrannigan 03-15-2023 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3607968)
The problem now is staffing. All they have to do is approve the TA as written and problem solved.

That would be amazing, but I don’t buy it.

Historically WN has never been the destination of choice when times were good and everyone was hiring. Only in the aftermath of furloughs and bankruptcies did this place become attractive for some period of time. But that attraction faded in time and the lure of widebody airplanes, far international flying, quick upgrades, and modern airplanes with joysticks and tray tables prove far more enticing to job seekers.

I find it extremely unlikely that there is a contract lucrative enough and with quality of life improvements so significant that it will entice job seekers to choose this airline over the legacies at this moment in time. The next time the economy falters, bankruptcies result in stagnation and concessionary contracts, and airlines furlough for a half decade, things might change again for a few years. But I just can’t envision a CBA that can compete in a young pilot’s eyes with a Dreamliner and a quick upgrade.

Mozam 03-15-2023 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3607968)
Just before covid AW told our class that once CA was regained and HI was secure, we would replicate what we did in CA in the NE.

The problem now is staffing. All they have to do is approve the TA as written and problem solved.

PS. I now also want the part DAL has that says if they’re JAd beyond the footprint of their trip and they can’t get home, the company has to provide a hotel and PS home the next day.


AW is not in charge. GK is steering the ship, with BJ as his puppet. I have deep concerns where this place will be in 5 years . Keeping the company head above water should be more of a concern, that taking over the East Coast .

This place has already proven they can blow a billion dollars in less than a week
12B can get burned up quickly, with the talent we have running this place .


My wishful thinking is BJ will be sent to spend more time with his family . AW is placed as CEO, given full control of running this place . Like I said, wishful.

RJSAviator76 03-15-2023 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3607971)
The next time the economy falters, bankruptcies result in stagnation and concessionary contracts, and airlines furlough for a half decade, things might change again for a few years. But I just can’t envision a CBA that can compete in a young pilot’s eyes with a Dreamliner and a quick upgrade.

And no one thinks, for some reason, that Southwest could fail and go out of business.... How many bad CEO's and incompetent managers does it take to tank an airline?

TransWorld 03-15-2023 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3608381)
And no one thinks, for some reason, that Southwest could fail and go out of business.... How many bad CEO's and incompetent managers does it take to tank an airline?

Smart a** response. At least one more than they have had.

Wound or impede is a different story.


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