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Old 01-31-2022 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
As opposed to a doctor? Perhaps a lawyer? Why are pilots so ashamed to be pilots?
And they’re losers too. If you need feel the need to use your profession to make a good first impression, then you screwed up somewhere along the way.
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Old 01-31-2022 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KPer
And they’re losers too. If you need feel the need to use your profession to make a good first impression, then you screwed up somewhere along the way.

So, are the guys and gals who take part in Adopt-A-Pilot program losers too?

Yeah, I just don’t see the world in black or white like that.
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Old 01-31-2022 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
But even more specifically, why is it “cool” to hide the fact that you’re a pilot?
Yeah, I don’t get this either. I’m reminded of when I was in college during the beginning of the grunge period (dating myself&#128516 and those that looked down on you if you weren’t in the ‘counter culture’ - you’re conforming, you’re fitting in to what society expects you to be… Ok, and you’re conforming as well - to wearing flannel, having piercings all over your face, and being a slacker🤣

This feels the same way to me. You’re trying so hard to hide what you do, that the appearance is that you think it’s too cool for the other person to handle. Yeah, I got it, no one wants to know within 30 seconds of meeting that you’re a “viper driver”, but if my occupation comes up, as it sometimes does in normal, initial meetings, I tell them and move on; just like they tell me.

Besides, while I respect and am grateful to be part of this profession, those that have done cool $hit in their lives know just how ho-hum and un-cool it is. What’s to hide???
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Old 01-31-2022 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Speaking of the interview team, I flew with one of them not to long ago. He wears some hipster shoes while in uniform, no where near to what is allowed, One on the questions they now ask in the interview is “ what would you say or do if you saw another pilot not dressed per the uniform code “


This place wrote the book on Do what I say, not what I do .
I interviewed two weeks ago and didn’t see little Ern or get asked the uniform question.
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Old 01-31-2022 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
That makes two of us. I like my privacy. I don’t wear any Company apparel, hats, shirts or anything of the sort that may identify me as a Southwest or airline pilot for that matter. I do wear apparel promoting experimental and general aviation because I’m active in both.

But I don’t begrudge those who flaunt what they fly or what they do for a living. They enjoy it, and they’ll be happy to talk your ear off about it. Why put down or mock someone else’s enthusiasm just because you’re not enthusiastic about it? But even more specifically, why is it “cool” to hide the fact that you’re a pilot?

Just like Whack could talk your ear off about his Miata (a total chick car BTW ), I’d personally talk your ear off about GA and the world of experimental aviation. Why is one cool and the other mot?
I think having extra-curricular hobbies (even if they’re still industry related) is healthy. It’s the people that live and breathe this place that are the ones pining for Age 70 because they literally have nothing better to do than be a SWA pilot.

I’m not walking around wearing 30 pieces of SWA flair either. I think if you really like where you work and want to advertise, that’s fine. To each his/her own. I think during contract negotiations, those who are “pro-company” often times are seen as “yes” voters (to some extent that’s true) and are looked down upon by others.

I’m not one to stifle someone’s fun…do what makes you happy.
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Old 01-31-2022 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KPer
And they’re losers too. If you need feel the need to use your profession to make a good first impression, then you screwed up somewhere along the way.
At least they're talking about their current profession, not their last profession. Some people love talking about what their name was at their last job and the fact that all of their pic time they used to get here was upside down and with only one very pointy "jet" engine. I know a ton of people like that against my will!

Seriously though, most people in Europe, when they ask "what do you do", they are actually asking about what you do for fun, not for your job. This actually aligns with people like RJS, many doctors/lawyers/even pilots, etc., AS LONG AS their hobby involves doing extra curriculars related to their profession (GA, doctors without boarders, etc). If you just say what you do for your job in response to "what do you do" it can be a cultural faux pas, and you will immediately identify yourself as an American (which you may or may not care about doing).
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Old 01-31-2022 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
So, are the guys and gals who take part in Adopt-A-Pilot program losers too?

Yeah, I just don’t see the world in black or white like that.
You’re tying this to the Adopt A Pilot program? Not worth debating if you can’t see the humongous difference.
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Old 01-31-2022 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
At least they're talking about their current profession, not their last profession. Some people love talking about what their name was at their last job and the fact that all of their pic time they used to get here was upside down and with only one very pointy "jet" engine. I know a ton of people like that against my will!

Seriously though, most people in Europe, when they ask "what do you do", they are actually asking about what you do for fun, not for your job. This actually aligns with people like RJS, many doctors/lawyers/even pilots, etc., AS LONG AS their hobby involves doing extra curriculars related to their profession (GA, doctors without boarders, etc). If you just say what you do for your job in response to "what do you do" it can be a cultural faux pas, and you will immediately identify yourself as an American (which you may or may not care about doing).
Interesting observation. I wish my parents would have taught me that being first generation and all…. I’m actually going to remember this and try to use it when traveling. It’s a good point.

But, doctors without boarders? Is that skaters, surfers, board shorts, or renters? 😁
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Old 01-31-2022 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
At least they're talking about their current profession, not their last profession. Some people love talking about what their name was at their last job and the fact that all of their pic time they used to get here was upside down and with only one very pointy "jet" engine. I know a ton of people like that against my will!

Seriously though, most people in Europe, when they ask "what do you do", they are actually asking about what you do for fun, not for your job. This actually aligns with people like RJS, many doctors/lawyers/even pilots, etc., AS LONG AS their hobby involves doing extra curriculars related to their profession (GA, doctors without boarders, etc). If you just say what you do for your job in response to "what do you do" it can be a cultural faux pas, and you will immediately identify yourself as an American (which you may or may not care about doing).
Why do you converse with Eurotrash?
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Old 02-01-2022 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Interesting observation. I wish my parents would have taught me that being first generation and all…. I’m actually going to remember this and try to use it when traveling. It’s a good point.

But, doctors without boarders? Is that skaters, surfers, board shorts, or renters? 😁
Haha, you got me! That's embarrassing, time to beg forgiveness from grammar kitty.
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