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Old 06-13-2022 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Interesting to remember the last contract here. It wasn't SWAPA that was gunning for the 35% pay increase for the 1st year guys. It was the company because they were losing people to Delta and they wanted to retain people. The bean counters will have empty airplanes without seriously jacking up the rates and my threshold for a yes vote is getting higher by the day.

Keep stalling, Carl.
i may have misunderstood the survey question. What I thought it was asking for was what would be the lowest acceptable first year (of the new contract) initial pay raise that I’d be willing to accept. I didn’t interpret the question as applying only to first year new hires.

Heck, it’d take a 55% pay raise to bring our 12-year captain rate up to Envoy’s new check airman rate of $427/hr.

And inflation isn’t slowing down any time soon it seems. A 40% first year of the contract initial pay raise would likely be a no vote for me depending on how the rest of the contract looked.
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Old 06-13-2022 | 06:30 PM
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You got it right. Rj was talking about last contract
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Old 06-14-2022 | 09:36 AM
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Been here 17. Not once has any prognostication I’ve personally heard from the TC come to fruition. They will say anything to keep the troops in line and avoid a newhire exodus.
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Old 06-19-2022 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
but they’ve kept us net cash positive…
No, our business model keeps us profitable.....in spite of the failings of middle management.

Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.

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Old 06-19-2022 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
No, our business model keeps us profitable.....in spite of the failings of middle management.

Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.
And who has maintained that business model at the expense of all the glaring issues you speak of? I’m not celebrating them, but it’s the truth. There is plenty they should have seen coming tho, like sim instructors needing 6-9 months to get spooled up and industry lagging instructor pay…pretty funny that we just learned who was swimming naked!
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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:24 AM
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HIGHEST paid 737 drivers in the world or a no vote. Also everything else. Disability, retirement, work rules, hotels, uniforms, etc.. Leave one thing off? No vote
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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvsTacos
HIGHEST paid 737 drivers in the world or a no vote. Also everything else. Disability, retirement, work rules, hotels, uniforms, etc.. Leave one thing off? No vote
This says it all . We are the most productive pilots, we should be paid as such. Instead we are called plumbers by our CEO and now chairman of the board ( the puppet master )
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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
And who has maintained that business model…….I’m not celebrating them, but it’s the truth.

That’s like congratulating the current politicians for our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

The only way that argument makes sense is as pro management propaganda, cause there ain’t no “truth” there.
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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvsTacos
HIGHEST paid 737 drivers in the world or a no vote. Also everything else. Disability, retirement, work rules, hotels, uniforms, etc.. Leave one thing off? No vote

Here, here!

But don’t sell us short….. highest paid airline pilots over a career should be our price. After all, we fly more than anyone else and that makes the company the most profitable airline around.
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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
That’s like congratulating the current politicians for our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

The only way that argument makes sense is as pro management propaganda, cause there ain’t no “truth” there.
lol whatever. See ya Tuesday in Dallas?
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