New hire question
#11
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Up until this month, I would say you would probably come out ahead using a hotel vs. a crashpad. I used to use a hotel just for the night before a reserve block started and rarely have to spend the night in base after that. For some reason this month I've spent more nights in domicile on my own dime than any other. There have been a ton of local turns that end up getting released until your RAP the next day. Not ideal for commuters, and I'm hoping it's just temporary. If not, I'm going to definitely need a crashpad pretty soon.
#12
That being said, I HAVE been overnighting in domiciles a lot when they do send me somewhere.
#14
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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New Hire Class Question
I got the call from the Chief Pilots office a couple of days ago welcoming me to SWA. I was told that I could expect a email to select a class date in the coming days. The email was sent while I was flying from KCVG-RKSI. By the time I could open the email it had been about three hours since it was sent out and the only class date left available to me was the end of September. While I'm thrilled to be joining SWA, I'm a little bummed that I missed out on an early class date because I was working at the time the email was sent; oh well water under the bridge. I sent an email to the Pilot Hiring and let them know that I'm open to an earlier class if available. My question is what are the chances I may get an early class date and does anyone have an insight on how people are selected for an early class date if one becomes available?
#15
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
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I got the call from the Chief Pilots office a couple of days ago welcoming me to SWA. I was told that I could expect a email to select a class date in the coming days. The email was sent while I was flying from KCVG-RKSI. By the time I could open the email it had been about three hours since it was sent out and the only class date left available to me was the end of September. While I'm thrilled to be joining SWA, I'm a little bummed that I missed out on an early class date because I was working at the time the email was sent; oh well water under the bridge. I sent an email to the Pilot Hiring and let them know that I'm open to an earlier class if available. My question is what are the chances I may get an early class date and does anyone have an insight on how people are selected for an early class date if one becomes available?
#17
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: C525, Left
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I got the call from the Chief Pilots office a couple of days ago welcoming me to SWA. I was told that I could expect a email to select a class date in the coming days. The email was sent while I was flying from KCVG-RKSI. By the time I could open the email it had been about three hours since it was sent out and the only class date left available to me was the end of September. While I'm thrilled to be joining SWA, I'm a little bummed that I missed out on an early class date because I was working at the time the email was sent; oh well water under the bridge. I sent an email to the Pilot Hiring and let them know that I'm open to an earlier class if available. My question is what are the chances I may get an early class date and does anyone have an insight on how people are selected for an early class date if one becomes available?
#19
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
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That's a possibility. I think the main culprit, though, is scheduling/skysolver and their insistence on splitting trips at every possible juncture. I worked a leg with a captain last week who had a different FO on every single leg of his 3-day. What busted-ass program comes up with a solution like that??
That being said, I HAVE been overnighting in domiciles a lot when they do send me somewhere.
That being said, I HAVE been overnighting in domiciles a lot when they do send me somewhere.
The real reason they will leave you in a different city is because they basically use everyone as 'airport standby' on the way back into base the next morning. There are plenty of time when they could DH back to base and you still have reserve days. But they tend not to do that. If they have a guy coming in at 8am from a DH, and one at 9am, and one at 10am......they keep their flexibility to use you as soon as you land. If they can't use you.....you go home and the 2hr call out starts all over.
It's their way to get around not having airport standby......by doing it this way, they basically get what they want.
#20
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
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It's not just domicile overnights....although those exist.
The real reason they will leave you in a different city is because they basically use everyone as 'airport standby' on the way back into base the next morning. There are plenty of time when they could DH back to base and you still have reserve days. But they tend not to do that. If they have a guy coming in at 8am from a DH, and one at 9am, and one at 10am......they keep their flexibility to use you as soon as you land. If they can't use you.....you go home and the 2hr call out starts all over.
It's their way to get around not having airport standby......by doing it this way, they basically get what they want.
The real reason they will leave you in a different city is because they basically use everyone as 'airport standby' on the way back into base the next morning. There are plenty of time when they could DH back to base and you still have reserve days. But they tend not to do that. If they have a guy coming in at 8am from a DH, and one at 9am, and one at 10am......they keep their flexibility to use you as soon as you land. If they can't use you.....you go home and the 2hr call out starts all over.
It's their way to get around not having airport standby......by doing it this way, they basically get what they want.
something else to watch out for is the friendly CS who puts you on the direct flight to base on your JA day, “so you don’t have to connect”. Contract says first available flight back to base, not shortest. I caught it and my JA day went from 5 to 9.8TFP by holding them to the contract on this one.
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