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Old 08-04-2022 | 09:01 AM
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What do they just preach recently in recurrent? We strap on 1.6 Billion in liability every time we push the thrust levers up, or was it 1.7?
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Old 08-04-2022 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I’m one of those also. Had that discussion with my UOE CKA assistant chief. I told him I’ll delay every time if myself or crew need food. He mentioned other stupid options ie carrying food, cliff bars etc.
Sounds like the chief pilot at my former regional, who wanted to know why a given flight was delayed every morning as it went through the hub when I was flying it.

My answer: "We report before the hotel breakfast opens, we have a 10 minute scheduled turn, on a plane with no food and no lavatory. Both of us need to eat and use the bathroom. What do you expect me to do?"

Without missing a beat, he said, "That trip has a 3 hour break in the afternoon. You can have breakfast and lunch then."


And the guy wonders why I was trying to help unionize the place.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 11:25 AM
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Flew with a CA for a leg yesterday that had not eaten a meal since 10am…it was midnight. He powered down 5-6 bags of snack mix and moved the rig. His belt and pants were not the only thing with the warrior spirit.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AJ311
Flew with a CA for a leg yesterday that had not eaten a meal since 10am…it was midnight. He powered down 5-6 bags of snack mix and moved the rig. His belt and pants were not the only thing with the warrior spirit.
Pathetic. Utterly pathetic.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 12:16 PM
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I have brakes on my side as well. I’m too old and too experienced for this stuff. They pay me to be safe, and that starts with me. Sounds arrogant; it’s not.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ311
Flew with a CA for a leg yesterday that had not eaten a meal since 10am…it was midnight. He powered down 5-6 bags of snack mix and moved the rig. His belt and pants were not the only thing with the warrior spirit.
Probably one of the ones who still stubbornly refuses to leave the cockpit unattended on a through flight, despite power and good air going. I don't get it, but I will get dinner. If he wants to starve, that's on him.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 03:04 PM
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Every leg is a whole new Mission.
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Old 08-04-2022 | 05:00 PM
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So........ UAL?

sorry couldn't resist
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Old 08-04-2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
So........ UAL?

sorry couldn't resist
UALPA is the snack eating capt
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Old 08-06-2022 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I need more rest then the min 10hrs and don’t extend. My life and the passengers are counting on it. It only takes one time to make a mistake. I can control some of the factors.
Per FAR 117 you need 8 hours of sllep opportunity. For me that is a minimum of 10 hours from checkin to lobby. When you add the 1/2 local transportation each way that means my minimum rest is 11 hours. If you need more than 10 hours in the hotel to get the FAR 117 sleep opportunity then tell Scheduling what you need, then your minimum rest is 1 hour added to that.So if you need 11 hours in the hotel then your minimum rest is 12 hours. In no case should any 121 Pilot accept 10 hours rest as giving them 8 hours of sleep opportunity, and per FAR 117 only the pilot can determine what rst they need in order to get 8 hours of sleep opportunuty.
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