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Old 09-26-2022 | 03:29 PM
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Honestly Andrew should have just taken over for GK but that might have been to much for them to handle with big changes that would come so Bob is the bridge to Andrew. Wonder has to wonder how long he will bridge as CEO?
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Old 09-26-2022 | 03:54 PM
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Now is not the time to place blame
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
And if that happens he’s hot to trot on international expansion and bigger airplanes.
I’ve never personally met the guy or heard from him directly, but people seem to say positive things about him.

And sending VDV out to pasture hardly seems like a losing move.

Having said that, the positives I’ve heard about AW seem to mostly be in relation to him dangling the idea of wide bodies, international flying, desirable domiciles, and cool new routes in front of pilots. We all know those sorts of things are like pilot catnip. They kinda make pilots want to hump his leg.

And then I remember we’re in Section 6, just started mediation, and BJ supposedly wants the contract wrapped up in a matter of weeks.

Could this move, at least in part, be a way of sort of implying shiny, and BIG!, new jets just might be coming around the corner? Could it be a way of getting our pilot group primed to vote yes when TA1 comes?

I don’t know but I definitely wouldn’t put it past them.

Let’s keep our defenses up. These guys have 51 years of experience playing the psychological game. They’re really good at it. Don’t underestimate them.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:24 PM
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Finally.

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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
I’ve never personally met the guy or heard from him directly, but people seem to say positive things about him.

And sending VDV out to pasture hardly seems like a losing move.

Having said that, the positives I’ve heard about AW seem to mostly be in relation to him dangling the idea of wide bodies, international flying, desirable domiciles, and cool new routes in front of pilots. We all know those sorts of things are like pilot catnip. They kinda make pilots want to hump his leg.

And then I remember we’re in Section 6, just started mediation, and BJ supposedly wants the contract wrapped up in a matter of weeks.

Could this move, at least in part, be a way of sort of implying shiny, and BIG!, new jets just might be coming around the corner? Could it be a way of getting our pilot group primed to vote yes when TA1 comes?

I don’t know but I definitely wouldn’t put it past them.

Let’s keep our defenses up. These guys have 51 years of experience playing the psychological game. They’re really good at it. Don’t underestimate them.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
I’ve never personally met the guy or heard from him directly, but people seem to say positive things about him.

And sending VDV out to pasture hardly seems like a losing move.

Having said that, the positives I’ve heard about AW seem to mostly be in relation to him dangling the idea of wide bodies, international flying, desirable domiciles, and cool new routes in front of pilots. We all know those sorts of things are like pilot catnip. They kinda make pilots want to hump his leg.

And then I remember we’re in Section 6, just started mediation, and BJ supposedly wants the contract wrapped up in a matter of weeks.

Could this move, at least in part, be a way of sort of implying shiny, and BIG!, new jets just might be coming around the corner? Could it be a way of getting our pilot group primed to vote yes when TA1 comes?

I don’t know but I definitely wouldn’t put it past them.

Let’s keep our defenses up. These guys have 51 years of experience playing the psychological game. They’re really good at it. Don’t underestimate them.
AW set up Hawaiian’s international route expansion. He’s been pitching that plus bigger airplanes to the Kompany for years now, so I don’t think he’s there to dangle shiny new bigger jets in front of us just so we cave on the new contract.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
AW set up Hawaiian’s international route expansion. He’s been pitching that plus bigger airplanes to the Kompany for years now, so I don’t think he’s there to dangle shiny new bigger jets in front of us just so we cave on the new contract.
Agreed. This likely has nothing to do with negotiations, just like Ryan Green's promotion (the guy responsible for upgraded wifi and power outlets). While I agree we need to keep out guard up, material changes like this are way above the fray of labor relations.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:49 PM
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Honestly, I don’t view MVDV stepping down and AW being promoted as anything but a big positive.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
AW set up Hawaiian’s international route expansion. He’s been pitching that plus bigger airplanes to the Kompany for years now, so I don’t think he’s there to dangle shiny new bigger jets in front of us just so we cave on the new contract.
That’s why I said, “…at least in part…”

They know his history of doing that and they know pilots love that about him. So, if he’s more competent than VDV (hard not to be) and he comes with the added bonus of getting the pilots all hot and bothered, it could be viewed as a win-win for the GO.

Stay frosty.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 06:56 PM
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Thank God! I’m so happy to see a breath of fresh air with Watterson! Now we actually have a solid chance of expanding and getting more international/other aircraft types
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