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Old 10-29-2013, 10:22 AM   #1  
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Well, if you haven't heard it was a gang-busters quarter for the company and the industry. With today's announcement of the new fleet planning and integration, NOW, is the perfect time for all the haters to join the ranks of the Legacy's. (Please see yahoo finance under ticker symbol JBLU for details) Enjoy sharing in the misery of seniority integration, base displacement during integration and of course starting at the bottom of a 13,000 list. Quick math -[10% of the seniority list at Delta = 1,300 pilots] JetBlue, you ask? 280 pilots. We'll add that next year with terrestrial growth. Good luck to you and your shiny big jets.
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Well, if you haven't heard it was a gang-busters quarter for the company and the industry. With today's announcement of the new fleet planning and integration, NOW, is the perfect time for all the haters to join the ranks of the Legacy's. (Please see yahoo finance under ticker symbol JBLU for details) Enjoy sharing in the misery of seniority integration, base displacement during integration and of course starting at the bottom of a 13,000 list. Quick math -[10% of the seniority list at Delta = 1,300 pilots] JetBlue, you ask? 280 pilots. We'll add that next year with terrestrial growth. Good luck to you and your shiny big jets.
I dont understand the point of this thread. Are you attempting to dissuade people from coming to jetblue?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #3  
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I think he's saying you are better off being a bigger fish in a small pond than being a very small fish in a big pond only to lose your growth and position in a merger. In many ways he does have a point.

The counter argument is that even though a merger cost me my wide body gig and schedule, I make more than if I had gone to work at Jet Blue. Using an apples to apples comparison, $122K v/s $94K.

Where it gets interesting is if I were willing to bid bottom of a type that Delta has outsourced to regional carriers, in that case I'd be making about $130K at Jet Blue. At Delta I am so far from upgrade it is not even a consideration.
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I dont understand the point of this thread. Are you attempting to dissuade people from coming to jetblue?

No I think he is telling about 2/3 of the guys on bluepilots to pack up and leave......This will be a fun one to watch.
Good luck p3.
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No I think he is telling about 2/3 of the guys on bluepilots to pack up and leave......This will be a fun one to watch.
Good luck p3.
That's interesting, since just a few hours ago the JBLU CEO stated publicly that we have a problem with retention, and now P-3 Bubba is trying to exacerbate that. Sounds like he is one of the "usual suspects" trying to burn the place down...
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I don't think he is trying to burn anything down. In fact he's been one of JB's biggest fans and over all intelligent (if opinionated) posters on here for a while. What I think he was getting at was implying that, because full relative integration is likely (I disagree but that seemed to be his opinion) then it makes more sense to get on and stay with JB because you will get full relative in an intrgration if they are merged, and if not then you will get the organic growth.

It appeared, however poorly articulated it was, that he was actually trying to convince ppl to come to and stay at JB, hyping the endless growth LCC model and extrapolating the fantasy of full relative integration as a given automatic entitlement.

Either that or he forgot to log off in the hotel lounge.
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Well, if you haven't heard it was a gang-busters quarter for the company and the industry. With today's announcement of the new fleet planning and integration, NOW, is the perfect time for all the haters to join the ranks of the Legacy's. (Please see yahoo finance under ticker symbol JBLU for details) Enjoy sharing in the misery of seniority integration, base displacement during integration and of course starting at the bottom of a 13,000 list. Quick math -[10% of the seniority list at Delta = 1,300 pilots] JetBlue, you ask? 280 pilots. We'll add that next year with terrestrial growth. Good luck to you and your shiny big jets.
Hmm, guess we must be hiring the wrong pilots... "No problem hiring pilots, just keeping them" says Dave Bardger CEO jetblue airways.

Why would pilots leave for those failed models of airlines?

Besides, even if jetblue furloughed you,( by god which they never have before,) they will pay you until you're 65! Getting hired at jetblue is better than winning he lotto!

Tell us p3 why would a jetblue pilot leave for a failed model airline?
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I'm not sure what to extrapolate out of that. Jblu had a pretty good qrtr, rearranging some orders, still net growth although slightly fewer 321's added than 190s deferred. Am I missing something?
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I'm not sure what to extrapolate out of that. Jblu had a pretty good qrtr, rearranging some orders, still net growth although slightly fewer 321's added than 190s deferred. Am I missing something?
Apparently something to do with mergers and seniority list integration too?
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I must have missed the details about the merger.
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