Attention Current JetBlue Pilots
#31
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[QUOTE=P-3Bubba;1509847]Osama Bin Laden was never an airline CEO, however he would fit in nicely. Bin Laden drove the legacies to their knees and JetBlue timed it's birth at the right time. It's better to be lucky than good.
#32
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Your thought process is just the same except TOTALLY negative.There are many things wrong but it is not the hell you make it out to be and management is not dumb....alpa 0 management 2 might be 3 if, and that's a huge if, they get the new pea right. (I would still vote yes)
Maybe you should go into management I am sure you would do so much better. I guess we should not be getting the 321s and just keep getting the mx heavy 190s? It seems to be a good move and yet you are not happy. You do have your app out right?
Maybe you should go into management I am sure you would do so much better. I guess we should not be getting the 321s and just keep getting the mx heavy 190s? It seems to be a good move and yet you are not happy. You do have your app out right?
The analyst are unhappy with the airlines performance. Why, because we lag in most measurable categories. Jetblue spins the growth when in reality we net the same amount of AC. Jetblue pilots read a Jetblue press release and take it at face value. That is why we are in the hole that we are in. Waiting for industry standard raises since 2009.
Management is going to do whatever it wants but to spew managements propaganda without knowing both sides simply continues the sad narrative that has become this pilot group.
#33
Hmm, guess we must be hiring the wrong pilots... "No problem hiring pilots, just keeping them" says Dave Bardger CEO jetblue airways.
Why would pilots leave for those failed models of airlines?
Besides, even if jetblue furloughed you,( by god which they never have before,) they will pay you until you're 65! Getting hired at jetblue is better than winning he lotto!
Tell us p3 why would a jetblue pilot leave for a failed model airline?
Why would pilots leave for those failed models of airlines?
Besides, even if jetblue furloughed you,( by god which they never have before,) they will pay you until you're 65! Getting hired at jetblue is better than winning he lotto!
Tell us p3 why would a jetblue pilot leave for a failed model airline?
I interpret that equates to 3 months.
#34
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Benzoate, so why don't you tell us by how much it missed it's estimate? Wasn't it $0.22/share vs $.21/share? That falls pretty close to what analysts had expected which was in the neighborhood of $.18-.24/share. There are times to complain and say "see I told ya so" but I just don't see how this is one of those times. It was a decent quarter.
Just because Jetblue told you they did well doesn't necessarily mean Wall Street agrees. Whether Jetblue meets or misses estimates management does a tremendous job of convincing the likes of the feeble minded that its operation is second to none. Meanwhile the RASM doesn't increase largely due to poor management in running the operation. Those are the facts. Nothing negative.
Converting options doesn't make this management team as smart as you think. Rather than focusing on the operation Jetblue still spends considerable effort trying to convince Wall Street and the employee groups that NPS is the great derterminator of Jetblues future success. Wall Street doesn't buy it. Somehow they have figured out NPS is tied more to Jetblue management bonuses than RASM.
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#38
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David Barger - Co-Founder, Chief Executive officer, President, Director and Member of Airline Safety Committee
Sure, more than happy to. It's -- Helane, no, we believe that, really, the -- when we look at attraction, really, of pilots, we don't believe that's an issue, right. As we look at longer term, and again, Mark commented on it, you look at retaining pilots, right, that's the issue. I think we're well positioned. Again, at the number of applicants that we're seeing and prospective applicants, we feel good about that. We just want to make sure that we're retaining the pilot workforce.
"We are committed to paying pilot peer wages, and we are currently lagging that"
Mark Powers
All depends on how you look at things.
#39
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What merger? If AA/US goes through and it's very likely it will, then that will be it for legacy mergers. The government is already clamping down on this AA merger and after it's approved then that is it. The next merger cycle will have to amongst the LCC level as they need to consolidate and increase in size to better compete with the 3 big legacies. Between Virgin America, JetBlue, Allegiant, Frontier, and Spirit, you might see JetBlue + Virgin merge and Spirit + Frontier merge.
#40
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I think they're worried about massive churn on the bottom. There will be some from top to bottom, but I'm thinkin the bottom 1000 are going to shuffle hard. IMO
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