OMFG give it a damn rest already. I can provide a crap ton of facts you won't like either. Give it a rest!!

 

As previously stated…..I’ll continue to call the bu!!$hit out as needed. In this case post #19. Don’t want to hear it? Use the ignore feature or don’t post bologna.

 

Oh definitely not salivating. I have zero interest in a merger. I'm with you.

 

You were lucky to keep a job. And I'm not saying that to be derogatory. That was where your "shop" was heading. I got a bunch of people that never interviewed (or did but got turned down) above me. Over 1000. MANY for the rest of my time here. From SL 9 to 10, I got over 100 more stuffed in above me. It was a stepping stone company... That I could have gone to a DECADE before I started here. But I didn't want to work for such a place and potentially be furloughed at any moment.

This is the reason it needs to be brought up again. Not to argue with Wack, because he'll never see it any other way. There should be no way a "senior" guy from a stepping stone carrier gets seniority over us. And that's what might be coming down the sewer line if we let it. Instead of the 6-7 year upgrade new guys/gals might expect, it could easily get turned into 10-15 years. They need to know.

​​​​​i recently had lunch with a kid just finishing up his commercial. He's going to be at a major/legacy within 2 years. Great kid. But he knows NOTHING about the airline business. Which means he has zero reference to where the many pitfalls and traps lay. No idea about unions... no idea about 50 billion in debt vs having money in the bank. (Why I wanted to come here even with huge shortcomings in equipment and mature contract items.) Even with all the warts, this place is sound for a pax carrying operation. That's why IMO we absolutely SHOULD get preference when merging with a far less financially secure company. ALPA merger policy is a equity scheme. Wait and see if any of the legacies try to fold their wholely owned regionals into their list. That stupid policy will evaporate like a fart in the wind.

 

Nobody is salivating over it. But if you think there isn't a plan B in the event the Max7 falls through...well i don't know what to tall ya. There's not much pilots can do to prevent business decisions made at the BOD level so we'd better be ready for whatever comes our way. Good or bad.

 

Ah, I see that after all this time the SWAPA pilot ego is still alive and well. For the record in September of 2010 which was the date of merger announcement we were anything but about to fold. What a load of hooha. The reason uncle Gary decided to make the purchase is because we were getting to be a thorn in the side of SWA & had some valuable gates and slots. It was not an AA buying TWA type of scenario but you just keep on pontificating how SWA bought a dying carrier.

By your line of reasoning I’m sure you’d advocate for a stapling & “capturing” of all captain seats in the event of an F9 merger.

There’s a reason why other pilot groups generally want nothing to do with SWA buying them. There’s also a reason the term “getting AirTraned” exists. Think about it.

 

What he said. I used to show them but they aren’t worth the time anymore. I’m st to wack as I should be. The two good friends I have from critter admit it was a windfall and a blessing. Guys like wack are cry babies about it nothing more. He needs to let his obscure ridiculous perceptions go. WAFJ!

 

All mergers will hurt someone. We need to look ahead as a unified group. SWA has never needed us more than now. We have the football and we need to keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock if we have to.

 

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When companies have the football (recession, financial troubles, etc) they have no problem threatening worse and worse concessions including bankruptcy-induced contracts. And they won't hesitate pulling the bankruptcy/furlough trigger (even SWA now, as evidenced by December 2020).

When we have the football, we need to show the company that we won't hesitate to pull the trigger unless we get .every.single.thing. we're asking for.

I believe the company. It's time they believed us.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/21/business/railroad-unions-votes/index.html

We will be allowed to strike. We just have to use the levers at our disposal.