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Old 12-14-2022 | 11:06 AM
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I have a CE-680 type rating that I got for the Citation Latitude, which has a very modern Garmin avionics suite with EICAS. But the rating was originally for the Citation Sovereign, which uses an older non-EICAS Honeywell setup. So the precedent for a common type is absolutely there.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 02:33 PM
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It will have eicas, and we will fly it with differences training. We will still be flying it when the 737 turns 100 in forty-some years. It’s what we do.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 02:49 PM
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I don’t think politicians need to stand up and argue for anything they know could be unpopular these days; they just slide items like this into some existing bill or other and there you have it. We can still fully expect that to happen. Watch very closely what the WA senators and reps are doing if you want to guess what might be the outcome.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
I don’t think politicians need to stand up and argue for anything they know could be unpopular these days; they just slide items like this into some existing bill or other and there you have it. We can still fully expect that to happen. Watch very closely what the WA senators and reps are doing if you want to guess what might be the outcome.
BJ was just asked about the Max7 on some Q&A thing on SWAlife. He seemed pretty confident of it getting certified.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:29 PM
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Too bad Boeing sold the corporate yacht. Load it up with some hookers, blow and a few important politicians and problem solved!
How do I get an invite to that. You can keep the blow, but I’m gonna double up on the _______s.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
We are two weeks out from the 12/27 deadline to certify the Max 7 and the Max 10 after which Boeing would be required to incorporate a modern (1990s era?) crew alerting system prior to certification of the type.

This morning on the Airlines Confidential podcast hosted by former Spirit Airlines CEO Ben Baldanza, Ben suggested (beginning around 04:30) that no politician was going to stand up and say that the Max doesn’t NEED a common safety feature and that Boeing would likely miss the deadline. He went on to say that they most likely already had a solution and that they would end up paying for it. Was he hinting that (in his opinion) they might have an EICAS plan for the Max 7 and Max 10, even if that meant a new type certificate?

My opinion only - Would an extension be the right thing for us… yes, obviously. The right thing for aviation safety… that’s debatable. EICAS has been the gold standard for human factors in flight deck design since the mid 1990s. It is unconscionable that Boeing has allowed the 737 to languish in the dark ages for two generations of that airplane. In a perfect world they should require EICAS and an overhead panel redesign not only for the Max, but a retrofit for the NG as well.

So given Baldanza’s comments, and 13 days remaining before the deadline… talk amongst yourselves.
The answer to all of these ?s is the A-220. 😜
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The answer to all of these ?s is the A-220. 😜
Better buy Breeze then, because otherwise the backlog for that thing is years long.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
At USAir they split the 737-200 pilots from the 300/400 pilots for that reason.

Here, supposedly the feds didn’t want us to fly both the -300 and the Max.

What did they do at AirTran when they flew both the DC9 and the 717? That’s the same type isn’t it?
Hey, hey, hey. You need to get over it and move on. Quit bringing up the past!!!
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Better buy Breeze then, because otherwise the backlog for that thing is years long.
I’m game. Let’s go.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
I’m game. Let’s go.
Would you give them relative seniority too, Whack?
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