Giving scheduling about 700 more opportunities for airplane swaps in the middle of my day... 😑

They’re going to overstaff this airline on a permanent basis on the pilot side (If possible). Better get the new rates correct for 87/89 credit.

I’ve been preaching that for quite some time. We better get an BIG increase in our rates to account for the over-staffing they seem hell bent on.

And for those pilots thinking about working for Southwest, these are our pay rates at guarantee:

1st Year $6,667 mo / $80,013 yr
2nd Year $9,641 mo / $115,695 yr
3rd Year $10,734 mo / $128,810 yr
4th Year $11,850 mo / $142,200 yr
5th Year $12,980 mo / $155,760 yr
6th Year $13,545 mo / $162,550 yr
7th Year $13,906 mo / $166,879 yr
8th Year $14,271 mo / $171,262 yr
9th Year $14,432 mo / $173,194 yr
10th Year $15,805 mo / $177,661 yr

Do you have a link? I haven't seen those.

it’s 88 avg. Worse yet we will still work the same number of days. Makes everybody available for reroutes and online reserve. 84% will look at the rates only. Have it spent already and will yessie another industry lagging contract.

The Southwest FO pay scale is eff·ing embarrassing! But I hear the CULTure is SWAsome!?!?

Run, don't walk, to another airline.

You are not using correct numbers. Your numbers are based the company bid package. You are leaving out the 108 TFP numbers the company and SWAPA 1.0 uses. They like using what the average pilot flys in a month. (Leaving out the fact that you are working another 3-4 days in the month to obtain their numbers ). It is an embarrassment to work at this place.


In other words you are using apples to apples , the company likes using apples to muffins .

Yeah....the rates are also from 2016 and yr 1-5 lagged everyone else. At least this time we're near last to get a TA so we only have ourselves to blame if we agree to something less than industry standard