DL TA career earnings >$4.4M more than SWA
03-07-2023, 05:45 AM
#111
At your mom's house
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: cpt 737
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My partner and I were having this conversation last night. While I don't expect a strike to last more than a few days at most in this day and age because of the internet etc I am fully prepared and actually hoping it happens around the holiday so I can actually get xmas off.
I have a plan and am building my strike fund, as well as liquor cabinet, to go months.
I agree in the feeling the company will push to test this one. For me it is setting a precedent on future contracts. They wanna see what they can get away with next time. They know they'll have to cough it up this time. The harder we play ball now the easier it may be in the future.
FUPM
I have a plan and am building my strike fund, as well as liquor cabinet, to go months.
I agree in the feeling the company will push to test this one. For me it is setting a precedent on future contracts. They wanna see what they can get away with next time. They know they'll have to cough it up this time. The harder we play ball now the easier it may be in the future.
FUPM
03-07-2023, 03:21 PM
#112
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 86
Originally Posted by hoover
My partner and I were having this conversation last night. While I don't expect a strike to last more than a few days at most in this day and age because of the internet etc I am fully prepared and actually hoping it happens around the holiday so I can actually get xmas off.
I have a plan and am building my strike fund, as well as liquor cabinet, to go months.
I agree in the feeling the company will push to test this one. For me it is setting a precedent on future contracts. They wanna see what they can get away with next time. They know they'll have to cough it up this time. The harder we play ball now the easier it may be in the future.
FUPM
I have a plan and am building my strike fund, as well as liquor cabinet, to go months.
I agree in the feeling the company will push to test this one. For me it is setting a precedent on future contracts. They wanna see what they can get away with next time. They know they'll have to cough it up this time. The harder we play ball now the easier it may be in the future.
FUPM
03-08-2023, 12:18 AM
#113
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,659
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I wasn’t at Comair during the strike, but what you guys did was legendary. Nobody expected it to go on that long.
The sad part is that the $1200/month was actually a pay RAISE for our first year FOs. Let that soak in for a bit.
03-08-2023, 01:28 AM
#114
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,691
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
…….including us! This is probably an appropriate opportunity to thank those of you who were ALPA at the time and supported us with your additional dues for the strike fund.
The sad part is that the $1200/month was actually a pay RAISE for our first year FOs. Let that soak in for a bit.
The sad part is that the $1200/month was actually a pay RAISE for our first year FOs. Let that soak in for a bit.
03-08-2023, 03:24 AM
#115
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
…….including us! This is probably an appropriate opportunity to thank those of you who were ALPA at the time and supported us with your additional dues for the strike fund.
The sad part is that the $1200/month was actually a pay RAISE for our first year FOs. Let that soak in for a bit.
The sad part is that the $1200/month was actually a pay RAISE for our first year FOs. Let that soak in for a bit.
03-08-2023, 05:00 AM
#116
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
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Posts: 6,659
Originally Posted by at6d
That plus the sweet ALPA magazine! You are welcome.
03-08-2023, 05:22 AM
#117
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When did CEO's of major airlines become so benevolent towards their pilots, and WHY?
Hi everyone, Delta’s Pilots recently ratified a new for your deal that it is unprecedented in the history of collective bargaining, profoundly changing the economics of Delta’s pilot career; and that’s not just for Delta’s pilots, that deal with determine compensation benefits, and quality of life for pilot across the rest of the industry. That means something extraordinary for American’s Pilots. That’s because our commitment, my commitment, remains unchanged; Our team members, including our pilot will be paid well, and they will be paid competitively.
Let me be clear, American is prepared to match Delta pay rates and provide American’s pilots with the same profit-sharing formula as Delta’s pilots. American pilot’s would receive pay increases of an average 21% in the first year of the new contract; Begin participation in a much richer profit sharing program and receive a bump in the companies annual contribution to your 401(k) in a second year of the deal. The total pay increase for pilots on average is 40% in the fourth year of the deal. Let me give you a few examples of what this would mean by the end of the agreement, factoring in base salary and increase 401(k) contributions from the company; a narrow body, captain at the top of the scale would make $475,000 a year or $135,000 more a year than they do today. A widebody Captain of the top of the scale order in $590,000 a year that’s $170,000 more a year than they earn today; and participation in the new profit-sharing program will increase the payout pool from 5% of pretax earnings too 10%, and up to 20% earnings about $2.5 billion.
And it’s not just about Delta pay, it’s about making sure this works for American’s Pilot. You would see significant improvements to scheduling related and quality of life items. That means improved trip construction, and more certainty when it comes to replacement flying and recovery obligation.
A deal like this would be a game changer for our pilots. It would be worth more than $7 billion in incremental compensation, benefits, and quality life improvements over the term of the four year agreement. This would allow you to join Delta’s pilots is the industries leader’s in pay, but with more quality of life improvements unique to American Airlines. It’s what you deserve and it can be negotiated and made available quickly. Like you I’m extraordinarily excited about the coming new contract and all that it means for you and American.
As we proceed down the negotiation homestretch, I plan to reach out frequently, share updates and make sure you have the company’s perspective and our unequivocal commitment to completing a new contract expeditiously. I want to assure you that there’s no question of our intent; That is we want you to be paid as well as your peers. We want you to have the quality life and benefits the matter most to you and we don’t want you to have to wait, Now lets get this deal done.
Thanks for listening and thanks for all you do every day.
~Robert Isom
Let me be clear, American is prepared to match Delta pay rates and provide American’s pilots with the same profit-sharing formula as Delta’s pilots. American pilot’s would receive pay increases of an average 21% in the first year of the new contract; Begin participation in a much richer profit sharing program and receive a bump in the companies annual contribution to your 401(k) in a second year of the deal. The total pay increase for pilots on average is 40% in the fourth year of the deal. Let me give you a few examples of what this would mean by the end of the agreement, factoring in base salary and increase 401(k) contributions from the company; a narrow body, captain at the top of the scale would make $475,000 a year or $135,000 more a year than they do today. A widebody Captain of the top of the scale order in $590,000 a year that’s $170,000 more a year than they earn today; and participation in the new profit-sharing program will increase the payout pool from 5% of pretax earnings too 10%, and up to 20% earnings about $2.5 billion.
And it’s not just about Delta pay, it’s about making sure this works for American’s Pilot. You would see significant improvements to scheduling related and quality of life items. That means improved trip construction, and more certainty when it comes to replacement flying and recovery obligation.
A deal like this would be a game changer for our pilots. It would be worth more than $7 billion in incremental compensation, benefits, and quality life improvements over the term of the four year agreement. This would allow you to join Delta’s pilots is the industries leader’s in pay, but with more quality of life improvements unique to American Airlines. It’s what you deserve and it can be negotiated and made available quickly. Like you I’m extraordinarily excited about the coming new contract and all that it means for you and American.
As we proceed down the negotiation homestretch, I plan to reach out frequently, share updates and make sure you have the company’s perspective and our unequivocal commitment to completing a new contract expeditiously. I want to assure you that there’s no question of our intent; That is we want you to be paid as well as your peers. We want you to have the quality life and benefits the matter most to you and we don’t want you to have to wait, Now lets get this deal done.
Thanks for listening and thanks for all you do every day.
~Robert Isom
03-08-2023, 05:52 AM
#118
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,509
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
When did CEO's of major airlines become so benevolent towards their pilots, and WHY?
03-08-2023, 06:12 AM
#119
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Posts: 3,683
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
because delta got off cheap and he knows it. They are depending on aa and especially ua to set the bar pay-wise. Taking into inflation, demand, and pricing elasticity, those pilot raises are a bargain for aa.
03-08-2023, 06:27 AM
#120
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,882
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
If it wasn’t for that sweet ALPA magazine, Tim Martens never would have enriched our lives! Wonder where that hero is nowadays.
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