Prd, pria, foia
#11
It's been a while since I read 111 or PRIA, but whether it's 5 or 10 years, a hiring company is only required to request the records for that time period. They can request further back if they chose, and can give as much or as little credence or thought to the records they receive as they desire.
In other words, they can request 30 years of records and proceed to throw the unopened envelopes directly into the shredder.
In other words, they can request 30 years of records and proceed to throw the unopened envelopes directly into the shredder.
#12
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Only required to request for and respond with 5. Every single company I've worked for sent all records (except the ones out of business) they have, and every request I've made (or had made by the relevant departments), I've gotten full records, even if it's beyond 5 years.
#13
FOIA is all of your records of checks that are made with the FAA, applications for ratings, etc. This has been pretty standard for 121 airlines for years, but there were a few exceptions. It was not required by the PRIA law and AC, but it was recommended in the AC.
Moving forward, PRD will contain all records of training (that are PRIA reportable), for the entirety of your career, in addition to FAA PRD information. I'm not sure if there's a software feature to only display the last 5 years, but more than 5 years can and is being entered, since we are moving forward and all new training/checking records are required to be reported. There will likely be no FOIA in the short future, but we are in the transition phase and airlines are being advised to do both PRIA and PRD, because not all carriers have data in the PRD yet. PRIA is set to sunset.
Moving forward, PRD will contain all records of training (that are PRIA reportable), for the entirety of your career, in addition to FAA PRD information. I'm not sure if there's a software feature to only display the last 5 years, but more than 5 years can and is being entered, since we are moving forward and all new training/checking records are required to be reported. There will likely be no FOIA in the short future, but we are in the transition phase and airlines are being advised to do both PRIA and PRD, because not all carriers have data in the PRD yet. PRIA is set to sunset.
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#16
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I can't imagine SWA doing a full FOIA request on a candidate. How long would that even take? and would they dedicate the man power to have someone go through all the paperwork and cross reference? Not only that by the time they get it, there is a good chance that pilot is online already and trained. Additionally seems like quite a conflict to hire someone, conduct a background check, tell them they are all clear and passed. Then go back and say sorry we didn't see this before, you're fired. Seems like that would put it back on the airline not doing their due diligence. I don't know, im not an HR person. Just a dumb hick pilot.
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I can't imagine SWA doing a full FOIA request on a candidate. How long would that even take? and would they dedicate the man power to have someone go through all the paperwork and cross reference? Not only that by the time they get it, there is a good chance that pilot is online already and trained. Additionally seems like quite a conflict to hire someone, conduct a background check, tell them they are all clear and passed. Then go back and say sorry we didn't see this before, you're fired. Seems like that would put it back on the airline not doing their due diligence. I don't know, im not an HR person. Just a dumb hick pilot.
But if that doesn't happen, they are more than happy to fire you long after you start if they find out you misrepresented yourself. I personally observed this in two airline new-hire classes (not at the legacy, they tend to do their backgrounds before class).
Even if you finish probation, it won't help. Misrepresenting yourself at time of hire is an "original sin" for which there are no protections and no statute of limitations (ask Auburn Calloway).
#18
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Out of curiosity, what exactly could be requested under FOIA on an individual who is not employed by Federal government and that is not already available via PRD? I've requested my own airmen file and there was nothing but copies of old 8710s and medical applications.
#19
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From: Whale FO
Some airlines have done FOIA. Ideally they get all their background results before offering a class date.
But if that doesn't happen, they are more than happy to fire you long after you start if they find out you misrepresented yourself. I personally observed this in two airline new-hire classes (not at the legacy, they tend to do their backgrounds before class).
Even if you finish probation, it won't help. Misrepresenting yourself at time of hire is an "original sin" for which there are no protections and no statute of limitations (ask Auburn Calloway).
But if that doesn't happen, they are more than happy to fire you long after you start if they find out you misrepresented yourself. I personally observed this in two airline new-hire classes (not at the legacy, they tend to do their backgrounds before class).
Even if you finish probation, it won't help. Misrepresenting yourself at time of hire is an "original sin" for which there are no protections and no statute of limitations (ask Auburn Calloway).
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