New Alaska Rates
08-23-2023, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AJ311
Using SWAPA's math the trash rates the company flashed in June were $10 higher than this embarrassment, $13 when you use CK's funny numbers.
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
08-23-2023, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I didn’t realize the companies offer was so high.
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
I think the idea is we’re the most productive pilots in the industry based on a number of factors and we want rates that reflect that vs years of the company getting so much for so little.
08-23-2023, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I didn’t realize the companies offer was so high.
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
08-23-2023, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
I think the company’s condescending and insulting comments and attitude toward us have already determined the TA1 no vote, no matter what TA1 is; this will be a vengeance vote.
I took the new survey and I said my piece. I'm not interested in subpar offers and I am not afraid to vote NO until we get ours. That's why I can't stand the naysayers and doom-and-gloom FUD-spreaders who say we shouldn't expect or hold our NC's and generally SWAPA's feet to the fire.
08-23-2023, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I didn’t realize the companies offer was so high.
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
The company proposed rates from June were pretty close to industry standard for NB. I say pretty close, because they pulled some creative math. We don’t have widebody aircraft at southwest, so most of us aren’t worried about the label for the rates. Company proposed rates from June were their first offer, and not even close to what this pilot group would accept.
08-23-2023, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I didn’t realize the companies offer was so high.
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
Is SWAPA trying to get WB rates for flying a 737?
08-23-2023, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Even the current 737 rates at Delta or United don't cut it, and not by a long shot. In today's environment, those rates are viewed by many as concessionary.
08-23-2023, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Even the current 737 rates at Delta or United don't cut it, and not by a long shot. In today's environment, those rates are viewed by many as concessionary.
08-23-2023, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yeah....I'm sure they could've done better on rates had they not done so well with QOL/work rule items. We need both.
Good luck with that .
As the company has stated. Quality of life for the pilots is of no value to the company.
If WN pilots want more money they just need to work more. If they want better insurance,they need to find a second job to work on days off.
08-23-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Good luck with that .
As the company has stated. Quality of life for the pilots is of no value to the company.
If WN pilots want more money they just need to work more. If they want better insurance,they need to find a second job to work on days off.
As the company has stated. Quality of life for the pilots is of no value to the company.
If WN pilots want more money they just need to work more. If they want better insurance,they need to find a second job to work on days off.
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