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PNWFlyer 09-09-2024 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3835935)
Who is going to tell him?

tell me what? There is no more flight testing to be done. You don’t need to fly the airplane after the flight test program is complete. Sorry you don’t understand that.

at6d 09-09-2024 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3835940)
tell me what? There is no more flight testing to be done. You don’t need to fly the airplane after the flight test program is complete. Sorry you don’t understand that.

The paperwork must equal wingspan before it’s approved.

e6bpilot 09-10-2024 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3835940)
tell me what? There is no more flight testing to be done. You don’t need to fly the airplane after the flight test program is complete. Sorry you don’t understand that.

You do know why certification is being held up, right?

From the news:
Reuters has reported that Boeing will “conduct flight testing on the anti-ice fix later this year.” Both sources say Boeing now expects Type Certification of the 737 MAX 7 and MAX 10 in 2025, with The Air Current suggesting “deep into 2025 at the earliest.”

So yeah, late 2025 is very ambitious. Anybody who has been around the block with our good friends at Boeing knows that their timeline will slip, the Feds will do fed stuff, and maybe we will see it at some point.

PNWFlyer 09-10-2024 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3835987)
You do know why certification is being held up, right?

From the news:
Reuters has reported that Boeing will “conduct flight testing on the anti-ice fix later this year.” Both sources say Boeing now expects Type Certification of the 737 MAX 7 and MAX 10 in 2025, with The Air Current suggesting “deep into 2025 at the earliest.”

So yeah, late 2025 is very ambitious. Anybody who has been around the block with our good friends at Boeing knows that their timeline will slip, the Feds will do fed stuff, and maybe we will see it at some point.

the flight testing for the nacelle is for all MAX models. They are using the MAX 10 test aircraft for it. The paperwork the FAA was slow rolling could have been done long before the nacelle issue came up.

flyguy81 09-10-2024 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3836196)
the flight testing for the nacelle is for all MAX models. They are using the MAX 10 test aircraft for it. The paperwork the FAA was slow rolling could have been done long before the nacelle issue came up.

FAA “Oh no, a door plug fell out of a MAX 9…better hold off on certifying the -7 that doesn’t have that door”

Hedley 09-10-2024 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3836204)
FAA “Oh no, a door plug fell out of a MAX 9…better hold off on certifying the -7 that doesn’t have that door”

Wasn't a Max7 used for certification testing for the return to service for the 8 & 9? We'll figure out our wives before we make sense of a federal bureaucracy.

flyguy81 09-10-2024 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3836215)
Wasn't a Max7 used for certification testing for the return to service for the 8 & 9? We'll figure out our wives before we make sense of a federal bureaucracy.

Yeah…Dickson personally flew the -7 before he rubber stamped the -8/9 back into service.

at6d 09-10-2024 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3836215)
Wasn't a Max7 used for certification testing for the return to service for the 8 & 9? We'll figure out our wives before we make sense of a federal bureaucracy.

I see you brought out the nuclear option. Nobody will ever figure out wives. Guess this is over….

GoodJet 09-10-2024 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3836196)
the flight testing for the nacelle is for all MAX models. They are using the MAX 10 test aircraft for it. The paperwork the FAA was slow rolling could have been done long before the nacelle issue came up.

But it wasn't. 2026 if nothing goes wrong with the Feds.

e6bpilot 09-11-2024 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3836196)
the flight testing for the nacelle is for all MAX models. They are using the MAX 10 test aircraft for it. The paperwork the FAA was slow rolling could have been done long before the nacelle issue came up.

I think maybe we are talking past each other? They haven't implemented the anti ice fix yet. The feds point blank told Boeing not to submit the application for final certification for the 7 and 10 until the nacelle anti ice fix is done.
The in house rumor is they are using the same engine nacelle but with different materials to satisfy the engineering requirement. It still has to be implemented and tested and then certified. I think a year is pushing it, especially with Boeing being put back into the crawl phase of crawl, walk, run after falling on their faces repeatedly.


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