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BillyMaddison 02-03-2024 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Zard (Post 3763548)
does that IFE switch run power to the USBs? I don’t think I’ve looked at that switch since new hire.


Not sure but these things were broken and added to MEL. MX had never encountered one of these before. The guy came up to the cockpit and said something like, “Man you ought to see the power supply to these things. It’s covered in a massive blanket with warnings on it about the high levels of electricity passing through it.” He was glad to not have to monkey with it.

e6bpilot 02-04-2024 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Traffic Alert (Post 3763546)
that I understand.. but w/ all the new max they have taken on you’d think those should be included in the refresh.

Why would they do that? Everyone is acting like this is going to be some ground breaking change. It's new seats and a couple of flourishes around the cabin. That's it. They look a lot like the prison seats on the United Max, which is an awful product. The seats they currently have on the 800 and Max were given the same treatment back in 2016 time frame. They are Recaro seats too. Have you ever sat in those seats on a long flight? They suck. These will too.
The product that we currently offer on new airplanes is perfectly average, which is the customer demographic SWA is going after. It takes time and a lot of money to take those planes out of service in order to replace an average product with another new average product. This will be just like the paint jobs. It's a full 10 years since they started repainting planes and I think there are still a few canyon blue 700s out there.

Opakapaka 02-04-2024 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by maniac28 (Post 3761426)
Bob Jordan says they will wait for the MAX-7 according to yahoo finance. Thats my upgrade. Thats my career progression being put on hold. I like our new contract but I don't like the lack of vision or where this airline going or should I say not going. That's not going to keep pilots here.

Let's face it, what other choice does he have? Two year delay is much quicker than any other option

WHACKMASTER 02-04-2024 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Opakapaka (Post 3763817)
Let's face it, what other choice does he have? Two year delay is much quicker than any other option

We said that two years ago. Are we going to say the same thing two years from now? Let’s call it the way it is…..the MAX7 program is a 🤬ing joke.

clearskys 02-04-2024 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Opakapaka (Post 3763817)
Let's face it, what other choice does he have? Two year delay is much quicker than any other option

what happens if two years from now there is another delay/accident and it’s delayed even more?

RJSAviator76 02-04-2024 12:43 PM

It's a shame our CEO is the type who hid behind his COO after the biggest meltdown in airline history. I really don't expect much or anything intelligent out of him.

WHACKMASTER 02-04-2024 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3763981)
It's a shame our CEO is the type who hid behind his COO after the biggest meltdown in airline history. I really don't expect much or anything intelligent out of him.

I’m more inspired by a crushed, wet cardboard box than our “leader”.

hoover 02-04-2024 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3763981)
It's a shame our CEO is the type who hid behind his COO after the biggest meltdown in airline history. I really don't expect much or anything intelligent out of him.

at least he got 4 million bonus for his outstanding leadership

Traffic Alert 02-06-2024 08:24 AM

This place is slowly eroding at the core and the execs are doing nothing about it. New seats and free guest passes aren’t going to solve anything. They keep telling investors that net margin will go back up, yet they leave billions on the table. Plane deliveries aren’t happening as planned. They need to pay for our new labor contract. Something has to give and soon.

i actually give F9 some respect for at least having the courage to try something new. GK/BJ should be doing the same.

WHACKMASTER 02-06-2024 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Traffic Alert (Post 3764859)
This place is slowly eroding at the core and the execs are doing nothing about it. New seats and free guest passes aren’t going to solve anything. They keep telling investors that net margin will go back up, yet they leave billions on the table. Plane deliveries aren’t happening as planned. They need to pay for our new labor contract. Something has to give and soon.

i actually give F9 some respect for at least having the courage to try something new. GK/BJ should be doing the same.

This place is f____d if it stays on this trajectory.


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