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Old 02-26-2024 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by J3nkums
No dog in this fight just reading the comments. Im a post 2014 AA hire and I have no clue what AA was like pre-2014 since I was a mil guy. But I've had nothing but good things to say about AA and the "culture" on the flight deck and with my fellow crewmembers has been great with very few exceptions. We all make decisions based on what's best for us and our families and in the end its just a job. Be a professional, do your job and go home to what matters.

.... until you go over to AA forum. Then everyone craps on AA just like everyone craps on SWA here.
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Old 02-26-2024 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
35 years? Most likely worth leaving SWA if you want to fly WB. Even if you end up not loving it you'll have the opportunity for quicker upgrade and higher relative seniority at a place with WBs.

If your sole concern is the ability to fly widebodies the list should probably go UAL, DAL and AA in that order. Seniority moviement is great but, it's worth more if there's WB captain spots to move up to. UAL has the most WBs followed by DAL then AA. IIRC DAL contractually flys with 2 CAs on ocean crossing flight over 12hrs where AA requires a second CA once over 16hr FDP.

Commuter rules wise. AA, DAL then UAL

Reserve Rules wise DAL, AA, then UAL.
Close, but if you want widebodies it’s actually UA/AA then delta. Delta has the least amount of top paying widebodies and have hired the most of the big 3 while having a smaller group. If widebody capt is the goal, AA might actually be the best bet and come the soonest of the big 3.
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Old 02-26-2024 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
.... until you go over to AA forum. Then everyone craps on AA just like everyone craps on SWA here.

I never go over there , does their management blatantly still from the pilots like they do here?
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Old 02-26-2024 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
I never go over there , does their management blatantly still from the pilots like they do here?
Pretty sure we don't have a monopoly on that... but grass is always greener elsewhere due to different brand of bullsh!t.
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Old 02-27-2024 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OverUnderDone
You read through the new contract yet? Co-Terminal language is prevalent and hints towards future growth of the practice. Would not be surprised to see MIA/FLL/PBI as a Co-Terminal within the next 5 yrs. Might get what you want after all unless you really want to fly that WB or wear a sweet hat.
Not gonna happen in the next five years, if at all, especially with the drawdown of FLL this year and a build up of MCO. Before the company can implement coterminals, they have to implement ALL provisions of the new contract. Once that happens in late 2025, they can start doing the coterminal thing. Gonna start with ORD/MDW, then move to IAH/HOU, then DFW/DAL. They will likely move to LAX/ONT/BUR, OAK/SFO, and BWI/DCA/IAD. If they ever get to Florida it will be MCO/TPA. I'm guessing it's a decade away.

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Old 02-27-2024 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KPer
Not gonna happen in the next five years, if at all, especially with the drawdown of FLL this year and a build up of MCO. Before the company can implement coterminals, they have to implement ALL provisions of the new contract. Once that happens in late 2025, they can start doing the coterminal thing. Gonna start with ORD/MDW, then move to IAH/HOU, then DFW/DAL. They will likely move to LAX/ONT/BUR, OAK/SFO, and BWI/DCA/IAD. If they ever get to Florida it will be MCO/TPA. I'm guessing it's a decade away.
last item to implement is q4 2027. So itll be awhile till they get to co-terminals
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Old 02-27-2024 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WaveoffGuy
Team,
I have CJOs at both airlines.
Thanks!
The decision is going to be made for you; you won’t have to pick.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxJester
come back, I’m bored.
How’s that seniority progression looking right about now big guy? Just like I said, Southwest will stall out and shrink for years giving back market share to the Big 3.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 03:07 PM
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SWA just announced hiring will be suspended. Now the choice is easy. AA all the way.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
How’s that seniority progression looking right about now big guy? Just like I said, Southwest will stall out and shrink for years giving back market share to the Big 3.
I agree 100% with this. SWA is in trouble for sure. The Max 7 will be what starts us down the shrinking trend.
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