End of the Cattle Call?
04-30-2024 | 03:37 AM
#31
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kind of...
the language actully says 50% add pay of the scheduled leg time. So if one DH's in a middle seat on a 2 hour flight, 1 hour of add pay is earned. Add pay is a seperate pay bucket (includes vacation and other incentive pay) seperate from the line or trip value buckets which can fluctuate based on trip trades or cancellations etc. Add pay is static.
And you actually have to be assigned and sit in that seat. If for some reason you aren't already assigned a First class DH per the contract, and get a middle seat but then get upgraded to first class at the gate, you don't get the middle seat add pay.
the language actully says 50% add pay of the scheduled leg time. So if one DH's in a middle seat on a 2 hour flight, 1 hour of add pay is earned. Add pay is a seperate pay bucket (includes vacation and other incentive pay) seperate from the line or trip value buckets which can fluctuate based on trip trades or cancellations etc. Add pay is static.
And you actually have to be assigned and sit in that seat. If for some reason you aren't already assigned a First class DH per the contract, and get a middle seat but then get upgraded to first class at the gate, you don't get the middle seat add pay.
04-30-2024 | 05:07 AM
#32
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I ddint cath that. Do you think the company, if we went assigned seating would interpret that as if there is a middle at time of DH assignment, ie when the schedule comes out, or at the time of the actual DH?
meaning you have a DH on your schedule but they wont assign that seat until that day and oops, only middles. Sorry
With the games they are playing on the uniform I'm sure itll be the latter.
meaning you have a DH on your schedule but they wont assign that seat until that day and oops, only middles. Sorry
With the games they are playing on the uniform I'm sure itll be the latter.
04-30-2024 | 05:25 AM
#33
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04-30-2024 | 06:09 AM
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They pulled the luggage out of the store after the union said anything in the store. The luggage catalogue is there and you can buy one from them but cant use allowance because they say the luggage isn't physically in the store.
The ladies were not very nice about it and acted smug when I said that was a lame reason.
There's no reason to play these games since it's the company's money going back to the company's VP cousin who owns the store.
04-30-2024 | 06:59 AM
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We sure did. 12.G.6.b: "In the event the Company implements assigned seating or a premium seating product during the duration of this Agreement, deadheading Pilots will not be assigned a middle seat, a seat in the last row of the aircraft, or a non-premium seat, unless these seats are the only types available at the time of booking. This will not preclude a Pilot from being upgraded after the original booking."
Preboard abuse has ruined the open seating, unfortunately. I think assigned seating may shave a few minutes off the average turn just because it'll disincentivize the people who fake a need for preboarding just to get a better seat. That'll save the ops agent time he'd otherwise spend wheeling people down the jetway. Folks with actual disabilities will still be taken care of, of course.
My vote is a two-class cabin: Open seating coach like we have now, and Business Select becoming a section of the plane with more legroom, assigned seating, and other perks. Maybe make it like Euro business class with a blocked middle seat?
Preboard abuse has ruined the open seating, unfortunately. I think assigned seating may shave a few minutes off the average turn just because it'll disincentivize the people who fake a need for preboarding just to get a better seat. That'll save the ops agent time he'd otherwise spend wheeling people down the jetway. Folks with actual disabilities will still be taken care of, of course.
My vote is a two-class cabin: Open seating coach like we have now, and Business Select becoming a section of the plane with more legroom, assigned seating, and other perks. Maybe make it like Euro business class with a blocked middle seat?
I worked at two other carriers that had premium. 90% of the time, if it was a reroute, IROP, etc, you would get the exit row. If it was on your schedule, usually had a premuim seat. This place has a high percentage of reroutes vs other places. So you can imagine what that will look like if or when they do this. Either way, we will not be bumping a premium passenger.
Preboarding didn't kill unassign seating. 175 seat aircraft did. You can draw a straight line from the average shell size increase/turn time increase of the fleet twenty years ago till today. The turn times of unassign seating vs assign seating are really no different now.
04-30-2024 | 09:43 AM
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04-30-2024 | 10:49 AM
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04-30-2024 | 12:23 PM
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04-30-2024 | 01:10 PM
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