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Old 05-24-2024 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 5tools
Has SWAPA gotten the pilots job back from the San Jose hotel incident during Covid?
Nick is back with backpay. This was announced via a SWAPA email over a year ago. Good ole SWA didn't want him to come back. Imagine that. So much for that Golden Rule.
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Old 05-24-2024 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EricStratton
100% certain it isn't a rumor if it is true.
Well that's left for a court to decide, since there is a lawsuit filed.
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Old 05-25-2024 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by EricStratton
Nick is back with backpay. This was announced via a SWAPA email over a year ago. Good ole SWA didn't want him to come back. Imagine that. So much for that Golden Rule.
Nick was charged by the courts. He agreed to counseling and if he successfully completed it the charges would be dropped.

SWA did not want Nick back due to anger management issues but really had little choice since there was no case.

I hope he is a better man now. He certainly had his issues during Covid. Horrible to work with.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 06:23 AM
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What was the San Jose incident
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Old 05-26-2024 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sdj1986
What was the San Jose incident
It was similar to that time over Macho Grande.


I’m sorry, I know nothing about the San Jose incident. Airplane! just popped into my head.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sdj1986
What was the San Jose incident
FA claimed a pilot assaulted him when said FA started harassing said pilot for not wearing a mask at the hotel restaurant. Or something like that….hotel cameras showed otherwise.

VP Flt Ops (or whatever his title was) said his job was safe…and then did a 180° and said it was a “clean kill”. Soon after VP of Flt Ops went back to the line soon after…1221 and this incident led to nobody believing anything he said.

Pilot got his job back (hopefully with full back pay and then some). FA was never punished for being a lying POS (far as I know)
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Old 05-26-2024 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
FA claimed a pilot assaulted him when said FA started harassing said pilot for not wearing a mask at the hotel restaurant. Or something like that….hotel cameras showed otherwise.

VP Flt Ops (or whatever his title was) said his job was safe…and then did a 180° and said it was a “clean kill”. Soon after VP of Flt Ops went back to the line soon after…1221 and this incident led to nobody believing anything he said.

Pilot got his job back (hopefully with full back pay and then some). FA was never punished for being a lying POS (far as I know)
Not the full story at all, but yeah, that's the gist of it.

I am glad he is back. There is a reason you will never find me sitting with the FAs at the bar (if I even go down).
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Old 05-26-2024 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
FA claimed a pilot assaulted him when said FA started harassing said pilot for not wearing a mask at the hotel restaurant. Or something like that….hotel cameras showed otherwise.

VP Flt Ops (or whatever his title was) said his job was safe…and then did a 180° and said it was a “clean kill”. Soon after VP of Flt Ops went back to the line soon after…1221 and this incident led to nobody believing anything he said.

Pilot got his job back (hopefully with full back pay and then some). FA was never punished for being a lying POS (far as I know)
The big mistake the pilot made was that he pushed the FA that was in his face being aggressive. NEVER touch a fellow employee. The FA was being belligerent and way out of line but it was the pilot who got fired as he pushed the FA. It’s not right, but just so you know what you’re dealing with at work.

Also, the “clean kill” comment came from Employee Relations and not the VP of Flt Ops I’m fairly positive.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The big mistake the pilot made was that he pushed the FA that was in his face being aggressive. NEVER touch a fellow employee. The FA was being belligerent and way out of line but it was the pilot who got fired as he pushed the FA. It’s not right, but just so you know what you’re dealing with at work.

Also, the “clean kill” comment came from Employee Relations and not the VP of Flt Ops I’m fairly positive.
I could log into SWAPA forum and look but I avoid that place like the plague. Someone on the company side said it and Flt Ops wussed out on making things right.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The big mistake the pilot made was that he pushed the FA that was in his face being aggressive. NEVER touch a fellow employee. The FA was being belligerent and way out of line but it was the pilot who got fired as he pushed the FA. It’s not right, but just so you know what you’re dealing with at work.

Also, the “clean kill” comment came from Employee Relations and not the VP of Flt Ops I’m fairly positive.
Agree. If you lay hands on someone, it had better be to defend yourself or someone else. That being said, we all make mistakes and from the account that I heard from someone who watched the footage, it wasn't exactly one sided. He deserved his job back and that's what happened. Case closed. All the other drama is just background noise.

It's amazing how I can be locked in a closet for four days with someone who I completely disagree with on just about everything but we can manage to be cordial and get the job done. Civility is a dying virtue.
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