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Old 05-22-2024 | 04:45 PM
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Southwest Airlines fired pilot who addressed passengers in Spanish when engine burst into flames

A Southwest Airlines captain has filed a complaint against the airline, which sacked him over his decision to speak to passengers rather than fly the plane during an emergency last year.

David Legeros was in command of a Boeing 737 that saw an engine burst into flames moments after takeoff from Houston Hobby Airport in August 2023 on the way to Cancun.

The plane’s right-hand engine suffered “severe damage” during the emergency, but rather than take the controls the captain chose to let the First Officer fly the plane. Instead, Mr Legeros communicated with air traffic control for a return emergency landing back in Houston, according to court documents obtained by The Independent.

Southwest Airlines fired pilot who addressed passengers in Spanish when engine burst into flames (yahoo.com)
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Old 05-22-2024 | 05:11 PM
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IDK much about this situation but I thought it was pretty standard nowdays that FO flys and captain runs qrh and does coordination with ground, FAs, PAX, and keeps a big picture view of the situation. I trust the FO's to fly, hell I trust them to make decisions but its my name as PIC and I wanna be the one fully focused on the plan, the coordination and the big picture. Not flying while half my brain is making sure the FO is doing the qrh right, letting the FA's/pax know what I want them to know and coordination with company.

I get wanting everything to a company standard but seems like he did captain stuff and got the job done. If the FO's got the plane dialed in and comfortable then hell yeah let em keep flying while captain does some captain stuff.
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Originally Posted by Vailacs
IDK much about this situation but I thought it was pretty standard nowdays that FO flys and captain runs qrh and does coordination with ground, FAs, PAX, and keeps a big picture view of the situation. I trust the FO's to fly, hell I trust them to make decisions but its my name as PIC and I wanna be the one fully focused on the plan, the coordination and the big picture. Not flying while half my brain is making sure the FO is doing the qrh right, letting the FA's/pax know what I want them to know and coordination with company.

I get wanting everything to a company standard but seems like he did captain stuff and got the job done. If the FO's got the plane dialed in and comfortable then hell yeah let em keep flying while captain does some captain stuff.
This article is a little misleading. There is no reason the FO couldn’t fly—in training we routinely will transfer controls and delegate tasks. The issue is the landing. Company policy says captain does it. I believe in this case he decided against that. That being said I don’t know enough other details.
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Old 05-22-2024 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
This article is a little misleading. There is no reason the FO couldn’t fly—in training we routinely will transfer controls and delegate tasks. The issue is the landing. Company policy says captain does it. I believe in this case he decided against that. That being said I don’t know enough other details.
He didn’t get canned just for the FO landing. It’s been a long string of “stuff”. The guy in question is super nice and friendly. It’s just that he’s also really adept at getting himself in trouble and there’s been a whole string of events throughout the last 20 years.
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Old 05-23-2024 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
He didn’t get canned just for the FO landing. It’s been a long string of “stuff”. The guy in question is super nice and friendly. It’s just that he’s also really adept at getting himself in trouble and there’s been a whole string of events throughout the last 20 years.
And you know this how?
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Old 05-23-2024 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
This article is a little misleading. There is no reason the FO couldn’t fly—in training we routinely will transfer controls and delegate tasks. The issue is the landing. Company policy says captain does it. I believe in this case he decided against that. That being said I don’t know enough other details.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the Harlingen incident the crew did not tranfer control of the aircraft, and they went around, cleaned up and came up with a plan to shoot the back course and the FO flew the whole thing, if I remember reading it correctly. Someone also claimed there was video of the Captain and FO telling of their experience about the incident in one of our training videos sometime back. Does anyone know if that is true?
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Old 05-23-2024 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
He didn’t get canned just for the FO landing. It’s been a long string of “stuff”. The guy in question is super nice and friendly. It’s just that he’s also really adept at getting himself in trouble and there’s been a whole string of events throughout the last 20 years.
Hes correct. There is also much more to the FO landing incident than what is out.
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Old 05-23-2024 | 09:06 AM
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I flew with a management type who told me most of the details, which were in my opinion, pretty egregious. The claim by the CAPT that it is because he has brown skin is even more icky. After hearing the details, which I don't remember very well, it sounded like the Kompany actually made the right decision as I remember it.
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If the mistakes were reasonable, SWAPA should be able to get his job back.
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Originally Posted by wndriver
If the mistakes were reasonable, SWAPA should be able to get his job back.
Has SWAPA gotten the pilots job back from the San Jose hotel incident during Covid?
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