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10-16-2024 | 06:26 PM

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waterskisabersw

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Originally Posted by Buchanan10

I heard other SWAPA folks say he's a loud mouth. When I watched him during the road shows he was quick to put anyone down who brought up the medical protections about the mandatory Covid Shots, so it's his opinion or else is what I got from that, but then again SWAPA did not offer anyone who did not want the shot any help either, besides saying they were Pro Choice and that you had a choice, some choice? When I called my rep aboutw
the shot, he said he did not understand what all the fuss was about, he got it, that's true leadership right there. Thinking I'll hold on to my vote on this one.

To borrow your "fact" argument from another thread, did anybody actually get forced to take the shot? I mean yeah they sent out the letter but later retracted it and nobody was actually forced to take a shot. So it's all good, and now there's language in the contract, however imperfect you feel it is, to protect against even that?

If swa is bulletproof on furloughs, they're bulletproof on vaccine mandates too.

10-16-2024 | 10:57 PM

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::Golf Clap::

Bravo!

10-17-2024 | 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I don't know MS too well, but Jody is rock solid in my book. Any man who makes Gary Kelly refuse to attend meetings in his presence is worth considering. Yeah, he is a swapa insider at this point, but he is blunt, honest, and doesn't pull punches.

Its MP. Not MS. Thankfully MS isn’t running for president . Both have been on the swapull train for a good bit. MP longer and Jody is a it’s my way or the highway. In the end it doesn’t matter it’s all SWApA. One big group think. The most recent meetings show that.

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10-17-2024 | 05:24 AM

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Yeah, can’t find a good reason to vote at all on this one.

10-17-2024 | 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw

Just to borrow your words. "I mean yeah they sent out the letter but later retracted it and nobody was actually forced to take a shot." Could the same thing be said about the 1221 letters? After all nobody got furloughed? I'm sure there plenty of pilots who got the shot just out of fear of losing their jobs just as the pilots who got the WARN letters were in fear of losing their jobs. So what you're saying is not harm no foul? And the medical language that SWAPA got us is very weak and JR did not want to discuss it at all at the road shows, he was very quick to point out that the medical language was the same as Delta's. Yet, supposedly I think over 90% of their pilots got Vaxed.

10-17-2024 | 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw

Just to borrow your words. "I mean yeah they sent out the letter but later retracted it and nobody was actually forced to take a shot." Could the same thing be said about the 1221 letters? After all nobody got furloughed? I'm sure there plenty of pilots who got the shot just out of fear of losing their jobs just as the pilots who got the WARN letters were in fear of losing their jobs. So what you're saying is no harm no foul? And the medical language that SWAPA got us is very weak and JR did not want to discuss it at all at the road shows, he was very quick to point out that the medical language was the same as Delta's. Yet, supposedly I think over 90% of their pilots got Vaxed.

10-17-2024 | 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

SWAPA was essentially being threatened by the SWFF group who were organizing their own little shadow union and demanding they get THEIR language in the contract and nothing else, so maybe he was a little defensive during the road shows when asked about it repeatedly by people who were clearly there representing that very group. Not denigrating anybody's choice on the issue....it's a done deal at this point and we need to look forward, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree if you think Jody wasn't in your corner on this issue.

I think Jody is on Jody's team. Trip pull nipple is what team he is on.

10-17-2024 | 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mulcher

Yeah no kidding. Thanks for the correction.

10-17-2024 | 06:03 AM

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Yeah, can’t find a good reason to vote at all on this one.

So no vote? Seems counter productive to your goals. Don't complain about the leadership if you aren't voting. I am not super excited about the candidates either, but they are going to be making decisions on your behalf. I am choosing the lesser of two evils.