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Ok—What’s The New Base?

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Old 12-01-2025 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
I heard 3 new bases in the next yr and 1 will be a big surprise. Also from a swapa guy.
so it'll be St Louis and corn nuts for a new snack
Someone told me they want lots of bases to save on hotel costs…hope that’s not true. I don’t think we need 15-18 bases, but nobody asked me.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
I heard 3 new bases in the next yr and 1 will be a big surprise. Also from a swapa guy.
so it'll be St Louis and corn nuts for a new snack
Maybe he meant having 1 new base would be a surprise at this point!
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Old 12-01-2025 | 11:54 AM
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The ‘surprise’ is a new international base. The other two are domestic. Minot ND and Akron OH. The international base will kick off a South America expansion using Georgetown Guyana as a crew base. New leadership in crew planning along with the union’s scheduling guru see split bases as attractive options. Winter in Minot, summer in Guyana.

These new bases are transformative, boutique and artisanal.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptTX
That’s what I thought too, HNL would be a big surprise but it would make sense since we are getting a pax lounge there. Would be a great jumping off point to Tahiti or Japan.
Here are some load factors. Load factors are NOT indicative of profitability though. Source is DOT BTS.


HNL AUG April JAN
  • LAS 96% 95% 96%
  • LAX 97% 95% 90%
  • OAK 95% 95% 92%
  • PHX 94% 96% 85%
  • SAN 95% 94% 89%
  • SJC 95% 94% 94%
  • LGB 95% 96% 84%
  • SMF 94% 96% 90%
  • LIH 60% 49%. 42%
  • OGG 60% 51%. 36%
  • KOA. 59% 67%. 43%
  • ITO. 65% 63% 53%
ITO
  • HNL. 64% 65% 56%
KOA
  • OGG. 52% 52% 46%
  • SMF 93% 96% none
  • HNL. 61% 53% 45%
  • LAS 93% 94% 95%
OGG July April March
  • SMF 91% 74% 53%
  • OAK 94% 95% 89%
  • SJC 94% 96% 80%
  • LAS 98% 94% 89%
  • LIH 57% 32% 43%
  • PHX 98% 96% 94%
  • HNL 71% 51% 44%
  • KOA 67% 50% 49%
LIH
  • HNL 64%. 53% 51%
  • OAK 91% 96%. 90%
  • OGG 70%. 26% 34%
  • LAS. 96% 94% 92%
SWA market Share as of AUG 25.
  • HNL 17% vs 47% for Hawaiian
  • KOA 16% vs 39% for Hawaiian
  • OGG 17% vs 17% for Hawaiian
  • LIH 18% vs 49% for Hawaiian
  • ITO. 28% vs 72% for Hawaiian
As you can see mainland to Hawaii does very well. Interisland not so much. All the competition did just as well as far as load factors to Hawaii. Everyone fills the airplanes to Hawaii. So SWA is not unique in load factor. We don't know yields so it's impossible to know how profitable Hawaii flying as a whole is. They seem to want to keep expanding there. BUR and ONT are next.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 01:55 PM
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They're gonna need some solution for Hawaii when redeye reserves come online
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Old 12-01-2025 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SlightlyAvg
They're gonna need some solution for Hawaii when redeye reserves come online
There’s no RE leaving the mainland so it’s legal to assign to a PM rsv. They’ve never had staffing on the islands for when things go sideways. A small base there would work (if staffed voluntarily) and RE flying could be used with RE rsv.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Someone told me they want lots of bases to save on hotel costs…hope that’s not true. I don’t think we need 15-18 bases, but nobody asked me.
lol frontier thought the same and yet..
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Old 12-01-2025 | 03:36 PM
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Unrelated to SWA but interesting nonetheless.

Alaska opening a new pilot domicile in SAN.
140 or so pilots per seat, Reducing LAX and SFO by around 20% each to staff it initially.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Unrelated to SWA but interesting nonetheless.

Alaska opening a new pilot domicile in SAN.
140 or so pilots per seat, Reducing LAX and SFO by around 20% each to staff it initially.
im sure we'd just reduce DEN to staff it.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
There’s no RE leaving the mainland so it’s legal to assign to a PM rsv. They’ve never had staffing on the islands for when things go sideways. A small base there would work (if staffed voluntarily) and RE flying could be used with RE rsv.
We have plenty of pilots there who are all over LRF opportunities... Company puts out an SOS, you have a local out there who'll fly a redeye to the West Coast and then hop right back on Hawaiian and sleep on the way back to the islands. They'll bag some serious TFP for being gone from home maybe 15 hours or so....
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