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Old 02-03-2026 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
I know someone who was in that meeting and nobody on the SWAPA side had any clue it was happening. Told me nothing Sutcliffe is doing makes any sense and there's ways they could have mitigated the fallout and helped the company but they weren't interested. That's when he told me they asked the company if they had any idea how much the displacements were costing and they shrugged and basically said, "we're not keeping track of that".

To me, it's like spinning a wheel and throwing darts at a wall and going with what sticks without thinking it through. Kinda like the new JS agreement about running back up to the CSA to get a seat and flip flopping on it. Or changing the Missed Altitude policy. This place seems to love making easy hard....no idea if they're just that dumb or they're trying to justify their job by creating extra work.
I honestly believe that 90% of what comes out of the think tank in DAL is people trying to show how smart they think they are even though they are not but no one there will tell them that because when you point a finger at someone there are 4 pointing back and literally everyone are imbeciles.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 03:20 AM
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Chiefs here can't ask you for doctor's note. I'm actually blown away that Delta and United chiefs seem to get away with this and that ALPA is somehow OK with it. IMSAFE is your one and only checklist and you're under no obligation to disclose your own personal health or wellbeing information to someone not qualified to assess your personal fitness to fly.

Suppose you get into a big fight with your spouse. Does Delta expect you to fly distraught and violating S and/or E in IMSAFE? What, they want you to get a note from a marriage counselor?

So you get dealt a crappy hand and hit a period where stuff is just not going your way, you've been having a rough patch with your spouse, and then your 12 year old dog dies. What... Delta wants you at work?

I know that I as a pilot am the first person to ascertain whether or not I'm fit to fly. We all sign the document affirming our individual fitness to fly before flying every leg. If I can't sign it for whatever reason, it's either a sick call or a fatigue call. Any undue pressure from the company, and it's an immediate call to the union and the FAA.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Chiefs here can't ask you for doctor's note. I'm actually blown away that Delta and United chiefs seem to get away with this and that ALPA is somehow OK with it. IMSAFE is your one and only checklist and you're under no obligation to disclose your own personal health or wellbeing information to someone not qualified to assess your personal fitness to fly.

Suppose you get into a big fight with your spouse. Does Delta expect you to fly distraught and violating S and/or E in IMSAFE? What, they want you to get a note from a marriage counselor?

So you get dealt a crappy hand and hit a period where stuff is just not going your way, you've been having a rough patch with your spouse, and then your 12 year old dog dies. What... Delta wants you at work?

I know that I as a pilot am the first person to ascertain whether or not I'm fit to fly. We all sign the document affirming our individual fitness to fly before flying every leg. If I can't sign it for whatever reason, it's either a sick call or a fatigue call. Any undue pressure from the company, and it's an immediate call to the union and the FAA.
This needs to be posted everywhere. Far too many of our fellow aviators fly when they shouldn't, usually out of some fear of punishment or "mission completion" mentality. IMSAFE covers far more than a fever or flu.

Sick benefits are an EARNED benefit and therefore belong to you to use as you see fit when you see fit.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cyio
this needs to be posted everywhere. Far too many of our fellow aviators fly when they shouldn't, usually out of some fear of punishment or "mission completion" mentality. Imsafe covers far more than a fever or flu.

Sick benefits are an earned benefit and therefore belong to you to use as you see fit when you see fit.
but sick bank buyback!!!! Contract 2050!!!
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Old 02-03-2026 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Crockrocket95
but sick bank buyback!!!! Contract 2050!!!
at 250%.
And thats giving it away cheap.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
at 250%.
And thats giving it away cheap.
I hope we never do it, because our coworkers will definitely come to work sick and it'll make a Wuhan wet market look like a preschool with a sniffles epidemic.

That said, if they do, I agree it should pay better than 1:1 because the cost of a sick call for the company is more than 1:1

A sick call also at a bare minimum pays both the sick caller and a reserve, but very likely the sick caller, the person who picks it up for straight or premium AND an unused reserve.

Buying back sick time would save them money in my opinion.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
at 250%.
And thats giving it away cheap.

Never. We have way to many that publicly say they would take take 50%. Heck, we had many who did not want rigs on DOT.


You are undermining the lack of any self worth some of our group has .
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Old 02-03-2026 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
So you get dealt a crappy hand and hit a period where stuff is just not going your way, you've been having a rough patch with your spouse, and then your 12 year old dog dies. What... Delta wants you at work?
I rack up my sick bank specifically for when the dog dies... that's a month off minimum.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I hope we never do it, because our coworkers will definitely come to work sick and it'll make a Wuhan wet market look like a preschool with a sniffles epidemic.

That said, if they do, I agree it should pay better than 1:1 because the cost of a sick call for the company is more than 1:1

A sick call also at a bare minimum pays both the sick caller and a reserve, but very likely the sick caller, the person who picks it up for straight or premium AND an unused reserve.

Buying back sick time would save them money in my opinion.
Bare minimum is 120% just to break even for the pilot group. Then you gotta factor in what burning another rsv costs, or LCO, or STC added up, or Premium/VDT like you said. I'm not smart enough to figure out all the different combinations and come up with a %. The liability of 11,500 pilots sick bank on their books has got to be insane.

I built mine up for STD/LTD under the old CBA and now with LOL, I don't need the bank that high. So I've been slowly burning it down the last 2 years (burning a 2 day in a month breaks even...you don't lose anything if you credit 120+/mo so do that if you want to maintain and not grow the bank). I always wondered how all my friends who commute have nothing in their bank....now I know why.
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Old 02-03-2026 | 06:26 PM
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Word on the street is folks who make it a habit of calling out on one day of a reserve block are being invited in to see the CP for a chat. I’m not really sure what the CPs can do though. Seems like a waste of time, but if you are ahead of me on the RCO, stop doing that schit!
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