Why do yall complain about the Union? That makes no sense, they don’t have any say in how many pilots are displaced. Nor can they force the company to create pairings that start with DHs, or positive space commutes. They can ask for that but why would the company ever provide it?

 

I can see you're not displaced...

This has been happening for a while, and yeah they can write language that would affect how the company handles displaced pilots. When I was displaced it was 3 months hotel pay etc. It barely covered the cost into LAX (from BWI) commuting from Florida. I was displaced for a year. So that three month BS really worked well. So yeah I feel the angst of a ton of our pilots who have been stuck out for the past 2 years or more. It gets old. It gets frustrating and NOTHING is being done.

 

I think you left out the point of the ( they can ask ). The THEY you speak of Want a job at HQ. The they you speak of have a different agenda.


Would you rather have JW or PJ. asking for some relief?

As for the the company doing what is not required, it is called good will … Just Like asking you to do favors for them. It is call good will .


As your CEO is now saying The employees come first .

 

The company may want this on their own if they find they lose too many people because of our staffing situation. I'm still convinced this will work itself out through hiring/upgrades (minus DEN). They may decide they're all ok with that, who knows.

They very much need to look into updating their staffing model to a block hour per domicile and not RON model. I'd be curious to know how much that effects our productivity.

 

it would but I still fly with people who have no idea about anything going on. I feel that 51% will vote with the union wothout even reading anything. I also know that even on a section 1 vote that maybe 50% of the group will even vote. And if the union does very little to broadcast the vote etc it will be even fewer voting.
it's very easy to get the vote you want when you control the information.
Just look at the surveys.
Do you think the SAC is doing a good job or a great job? Etc.

I still dont see how DEN will never grow back? Hopefully we get a couple real good snow storms this spring and summer is horrendous and the company will see that cutting the pilots yet not the flights from a base isnt a good idea.

 

You’d think the “data driven” brain trust at Swapa would have access to that info and could present it to planning/Watterson showing how our preferred staffing model saves money and is more efficient (or maybe it’s not which is why they haven’t done it). Either way we deserve to know what the union is doing about the increasing number of displaced people other than “you can take a paid move” and “it’ll be years for you to get back home”.

If the company refuses to engage in talks about how to fix the problem so it’s mutually beneficial, maybe some billboards on Mockingbird Ln saying how Bob’s actions don’t reflect his “employees come first” words.

 

Some good snow storms where they can’t recover due to kicking everyone out followed by squall lines shutting down 2 or 3 TX bases….

You’re prob right on the vote…if it’s not a CBA vote then our group is pretty apathetic.

 

I really dont know how they would recover from a good Ole fashion winter storm in DEN.
I was looking at picking up a reserve block during the first week of Feb thinking I could sit one out but I was going to be the only 2 day on reserve. The only person! Also only a couple other blocks as well so id get called.
point is they do not have the manning to cover anything. And with 30% of the base now commuting to other bases those people are not in any position to pick up nor may they want to after spening 4 more days at work/month for free commuting.
​​.if I didn't have bills to pay etc id just give everything away and not work. I have zero desire to do anything but get paid.

 

Hoover I’m with you. Being out for nearly a year on LOA was a good exercise in reflection. It was the first time I ran out of currency on an airplane in over 30 years and found “hmm I actually have other interests.” LOL.

If they are going to reduce the lines and speak out both sides of their mouth, I’m fine with giving a trip away instead of picking up extra. I have one mortgage and that’s it—time to enjoy life instead of waiting for retirement to do it.

We have resolved to maximize our vacation and travel extensively. Enough of this.

 

If block per duty period is about what it is historically, based on the amount of flying, they won't do much. DPOS doesn't care about RON's. That is key in productivity. If you add DH's to it, you won't get the high block per duty period. We would like that but the company won't. It's just a pure cost.

When this contract was TA'd, this wasn't even in the top 100 things I wanted fixed. Same with assign seating. Both provisions were really not at least on my radar. Company has been flexing bases for fifty plus years. Its a key productivity tool that has its advantages to the company because of the single fleet type. Now they are exploiting it. That ain't right. Scary part is they are willing to pay for moving. This will not be fixed by flight ops. This has to go to BJ or AW. SWAPA has nothing to stand on contractually.

Company reports after the bell. They normally give guidance on what the fleet plans are for the year. Boeing reported yesterday and gave some pretty good guidance on deliveries and color on the 7 and 10. The 10 has been giving TIA and its flying a lot. Boeing now believes the 7 will be certified in early summer vs late summer and the 10 in late summer. Boeing has on their books to deliver four max 7's in December to SWA. It will be nice to hear SWA side of this. we'll see.