looks like junior original SW in ATL is 19+ yrs and guessing junior former AT is around 22 including time served there.

 

based on the projected vacancy

Junior ATL Tran CA is April 2005 DOH

SWA CA is September 2007 DOH

 

ATL is dying. Denver is shrinking. This is a snapshot in time. When I got hired DAL and MCO were both 5 years to hold as a FO. There have been multiple times since that new hires and new upgrades have gone to both bases. At one point, MCO had 7 year captains awarded.

ATL is being kept around because of nostalgia. I suspect it will be the first SWA base to close. DEN is going to shrink and grow as the company sees fit. This is a fickle business. There will be a time again when things flip on their heads. We have 2
years of stagnation and are getting ready to get an injection of new hires and upgrades.

 

Is that really how seniority works? You get to count your seniority at your last company too? 20 years at brand X and 2 years at SW and you get to call yourself a 22 year SW pilot? Thats hilarious!

 

When two companies merge, that's what happens. Same thing happened when Valujet bought AirTran.

 

Seems pretty standard with all mergers. Seniority is defined as whatever your union negotiates during the merger.

I jumpseated with a 19 yr AA FO who had been stapled twice. The CA was in both of the same mergers, but since he was 1 yr senior to the FO at the time of the first merger he was able to upgrade to CA. So while the FO had been stuck in the right seat for 19 years, the CA had been left seat for 7 years. Because of a 1 year difference in hire date before the first of 2 mergers. You get what you negotiate, but sometimes you're lied to by your own team. That 19 yr FO had documentation going back almost 2 decades of every time he'd been screwed over and flat-out lied to prior to votes. He was pretty bitter, to say the least. The CA had nothing to say other than "he's not wrong".

That's 99% of the reason I never applied at AA. There was a lot of angst going on there from the mergers and I didn't want to be part of that. SWA has angst for sure, but it's a different kind of special that I can deal with.

 

“- Who told you?

- They.

- 'They' talk a lot, don't they?

- They certainly do. They certainly do.”

 

That’s how longevity works (in this case). The way seniority works is this - the SWA dude is senior to the FAT. Gotta keep Liberty and his many sea daddy’s happy.

 

Uhmmm… hate to interrupt your conversation with yourself but he already told you “crew planning”. You only yap about using pronouns if they haven’t already told you which person, office, organization previously. Try getting out more. Talk to other people. Get more practice. Also, “they” have been releasing projections every 24 hours.

 

Exhibit #99 👆 that a lot of these dudes are “different”.