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GJ
#32
I could be mistaken, but don't remember a post ever stating that "they knew first hand" what the SWA culture was like, or even that they wished they were part of it.
I realize the Air Force didn't teach you, as an Officer, to think about anyone other than yourself, but try and reason what your "culture" will be like in 10 years, after "your" management has found a loophole to scope or threatened bankruptcy.
GJ
#33
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: CA
Posts: 1,207
I think, for the most part anyway, most Delta (other airline) guys who talk of the "SWA culture" are referring to the culture they feel their respective airlines once had as well. (Hence, the reason they know of "A CULTURE".)
I could be mistaken, but don't remember a post ever stating that "they knew first hand" what the SWA culture was like, or even that they wished they were part of it.
I realize the Air Force didn't teach you, as an Officer, to think about anyone other than yourself, but try and reason what your "culture" will be like in 10 years, after "your" management has found a loophole to scope or threatened bankruptcy.
GJ
I could be mistaken, but don't remember a post ever stating that "they knew first hand" what the SWA culture was like, or even that they wished they were part of it.
I realize the Air Force didn't teach you, as an Officer, to think about anyone other than yourself, but try and reason what your "culture" will be like in 10 years, after "your" management has found a loophole to scope or threatened bankruptcy.
GJ
Your defeatist attitude concerning scope is endemic of the epic failures of your ALPA representation. You once had scope, but you chose to willingly give it away. The VAST MAJORITY of your scope give away occurred outside of the bankruptcy process. Again, to wish your failures on another group speaks volumes about you character, but I guess misery loves company. I guess you want the entire industry to suffer so you won't feel as bad about your unenviable position.
The main difference between Delta and SWA concerning scope, is the fact that SWA actually wants to run an airline not a ticket brokerage. I don't fear losing our scope for two main reasons. The first and most important is the fact that SWA actually wants to perform ALL of its flying. SWA is concerned about the product and understands that the only way you can have quality control is to produce the product yourself. The second is the fact that our scope is iron clad and will not go away unless SWAPA decides to give it away. We will not sell our scope period. Please try and find the hole in this, because I simply don't see it.
"This Agreement covers all revenue and miscellaneous flying, performed with aircraft owned or leased by the Company, or which displays Company markings, including all flying in and for the service of the Company and its affiliates. All flying covered by this Agreement shall be performed by pilots whose names appear on the Southwest Airlines Master Pilot Seniority List."
#35
I think, for the most part anyway, most Delta (other airline) guys who talk of the "SWA culture" are referring to the culture they feel their respective airlines once had as well. (Hence, the reason they know of "A CULTURE".)
I could be mistaken, but don't remember a post ever stating that "they knew first hand" what the SWA culture was like, or even that they wished they were part of it.
I realize the Air Force didn't teach you, as an Officer, to think about anyone other than yourself, but try and reason what your "culture" will be like in 10 years, after "your" management has found a loophole to scope or threatened bankruptcy.
GJ
I could be mistaken, but don't remember a post ever stating that "they knew first hand" what the SWA culture was like, or even that they wished they were part of it.
I realize the Air Force didn't teach you, as an Officer, to think about anyone other than yourself, but try and reason what your "culture" will be like in 10 years, after "your" management has found a loophole to scope or threatened bankruptcy.
GJ
Of course you could be right, but is that really worth posting?
Last edited by LuvJockey; 11-29-2011 at 03:39 AM.
#36
I'm just commenting on "Shoe's" previous post of all other airlines speaking of SWA culture. They're not, a majority of the posts on this thread and others, in my opinion, speak of "A CULTURE".
Careful of the glass house everyone lives in over there, as it's obviously not able to withstand some stones.
GJ
P.S. Also, the "Regional, SWA wannabe" posters like "Paxhauler" can go back to their own forum, the "Regional Forum" talking about how cool their backpack's match the shiny new RJ they fly.
Good day.
Last edited by Elliot; 11-29-2011 at 09:25 AM.
#37
You don't think the "low hanging fruit" that resulted in WN being so successful in the past is coming to an end?
You think that management cares about employees when the CEO/CFO/COO have a Board of Directors and "shareholders" to keep happy?
You think for a second that WN would've remained profitable for another ten years, (already posted quarterly losses) without the addition of FL's ATL hub and international routes?
COME ON?
GJ
#38
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: erb
Posts: 646
Flow.
For a guy who makes $37 an hour, you sure do have alot to say.
#39
I'm just getting warmed up for year 1 at DL - $35/hr.
Are you a pre-merger NWA guy? Next time you fly with one, give him a pat on the back for me - they're the guys who negotiated it on my behalf while I was putting the finishing touches on my college degree.
Our section 6 negotiations open in 11 months - hopefully we can improve that payrate.
Are you a pre-merger NWA guy? Next time you fly with one, give him a pat on the back for me - they're the guys who negotiated it on my behalf while I was putting the finishing touches on my college degree.
Our section 6 negotiations open in 11 months - hopefully we can improve that payrate.
#40
Now that paxhauler has spoken again, anyone else around here have any further questions on why I'm against flows?