LGA/DCA slots
01-03-2014 | 09:42 AM
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Not bragging at all. Just trying to make the point that SWA doesn't need concessions from anybody. They may want it but definitely not needed.
When management drags their feet for two years with contract negotiations and all of them(rampers,gate agents and op agents) still are no where near an agreement their is no urgency to rush things. I could remember back in 2000 when UAL told the pilot group to stuff it. The operation suffered that summer. Passangers called it the summer of hell. Pilots got a contract. Pretty good one to. The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
You can pay guys peanuts or pay them well all you want. If their is no accountability on getting airplane out on time, no need to rush. Look at our international ops. They try hard to get airplanes out on time. Why? Accountability by
the station. Which by the way is not run by SWA. It's all about leadership. You want to run a good operation it has to be a priority by management. It seems these day's SWA is not too worried about it. So I won't either.
When management drags their feet for two years with contract negotiations and all of them(rampers,gate agents and op agents) still are no where near an agreement their is no urgency to rush things. I could remember back in 2000 when UAL told the pilot group to stuff it. The operation suffered that summer. Passangers called it the summer of hell. Pilots got a contract. Pretty good one to. The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
You can pay guys peanuts or pay them well all you want. If their is no accountability on getting airplane out on time, no need to rush. Look at our international ops. They try hard to get airplanes out on time. Why? Accountability by
the station. Which by the way is not run by SWA. It's all about leadership. You want to run a good operation it has to be a priority by management. It seems these day's SWA is not too worried about it. So I won't either.
I think they can get away with that if the city's served by less than eight SW flts daily, right?
01-03-2014 | 10:22 AM
#43
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Which begs the question regarding international ops; is their plan to use all non-SWA employees (vendor agents and rampers) "down south"?
Q: At the International Stations will we use contract labor/vendors rather than SWA Employees? Will Southwest Employees be able to apply to work in an international city?
A: We will use the existing staffing model when we convert the current AirTran international Stations to Southwest. As is industry standard with international Station operations, vendors will be at the Stations with a Southwest Regional Manager having oversight responsibility based in the U.S. We will evaluate the effectiveness of this staffing model after all locations have been converted and we have time to assess performance.
Q: Will there be assigned seats?
A: No. Open seating will continue on all domestic and international flights.
Q: Are seat assignments for international flights a federal requirement or just airline tradition?
A: There is no regulatory requirement that would require us to use assigned seating for international flights. The open seating policy allows us to efficiently turn flights and to provide value-added services like Business Select, Upgraded Boarding, Early Bird, and to offer our A-List Passengers early boarding options.
Q: Will boarding procedures change for international flights?
A: Boarding procedures will remain as-is for all boardings performed at a domestic station. International station boarding procedures may be slightly modified due to space and equipment constraints of common-use stations, but we will continue to use the boarding letter and numbering system in place today.
01-03-2014 | 09:36 PM
#44
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[QUOTE=REF 5;1551504]Not bragging at all. Just trying to make the point that SWA doesn't need concessions from anybody. They may want it but definitely not needed.
The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
QUOTE]
The gate/ops agents are a huge issue. Not wanting to step on any toes but after the 300/500's are gone SWA can easily replace the OPs agents with technology (ACARS) which most other airlines use for TO/LNG Data.
They could roll Gate/Ops Agents together to one group to get increased manning at all the gates. There is always a shortage of either or both.
That said industry leading pays should require industry leading results.
Not to beat a long dead horse, even after 5 years in negotiations on our pilot contract at AirTran we were still winning AQR awards. Yes we were dysfunctional in some ways but we were and are professionals.
The employee groups all need to brings their A games or we all fail.
Take care, fly safe and stay warm.
The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
QUOTE]
The gate/ops agents are a huge issue. Not wanting to step on any toes but after the 300/500's are gone SWA can easily replace the OPs agents with technology (ACARS) which most other airlines use for TO/LNG Data.
They could roll Gate/Ops Agents together to one group to get increased manning at all the gates. There is always a shortage of either or both.
That said industry leading pays should require industry leading results.
Not to beat a long dead horse, even after 5 years in negotiations on our pilot contract at AirTran we were still winning AQR awards. Yes we were dysfunctional in some ways but we were and are professionals.
The employee groups all need to brings their A games or we all fail.
Take care, fly safe and stay warm.
01-04-2014 | 10:40 AM
#45
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[QUOTE=Boogie Nights;1552130]
Good points. Having the 300/500s around shouldn't be a hinderance to using Aero Data through the MCDU. Even the Classics have at least one.
Not bragging at all. Just trying to make the point that SWA doesn't need concessions from anybody. They may want it but definitely not needed.
The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
QUOTE]
The gate/ops agents are a huge issue. Not wanting to step on any toes but after the 300/500's are gone SWA can easily replace the OPs agents with technology (ACARS) which most other airlines use for TO/LNG Data.
They could roll Gate/Ops Agents together to one group to get increased manning at all the gates. There is always a shortage of either or both.
That said industry leading pays should require industry leading results.
Not to beat a long dead horse, even after 5 years in negotiations on our pilot contract at AirTran we were still winning AQR awards. Yes we were dysfunctional in some ways but we were and are professionals.
The employee groups all need to brings their A games or we all fail.
Take care, fly safe and stay warm.
The other problem is SWA is buying larger aircraft with more bags to load and yet no extra help. Oh well, that's a management decision. Personally I think SWA has way too many chiefs for it's operation. And most importantly, management doesn't give the sense of urgency. If the chiefs don't say anything about it or push it, then nobody will. Leadership comes from the top. SWA management is not making on time a priority. So the operation shows it.
QUOTE]
The gate/ops agents are a huge issue. Not wanting to step on any toes but after the 300/500's are gone SWA can easily replace the OPs agents with technology (ACARS) which most other airlines use for TO/LNG Data.
They could roll Gate/Ops Agents together to one group to get increased manning at all the gates. There is always a shortage of either or both.
That said industry leading pays should require industry leading results.
Not to beat a long dead horse, even after 5 years in negotiations on our pilot contract at AirTran we were still winning AQR awards. Yes we were dysfunctional in some ways but we were and are professionals.
The employee groups all need to brings their A games or we all fail.
Take care, fly safe and stay warm.
01-15-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Westjet is out.
WestJet Skips Washington-Flights Bid as Rivals Rush In - Bloomberg
Anyone with a guess?
JetBlue 12-18
01-15-2014 | 01:32 PM
#48
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52 slot pairs up for grabs
B6 currently leases 8, and has first right to those
My guess for the 44 remaining slots will go:
14 B6
14 WN
8 VX
8 ???
I'm also thinking there will be a surprise 4th carrier to be awarded slots, maybe DL? Air Canada?
B6 currently leases 8, and has first right to those
My guess for the 44 remaining slots will go:
14 B6
14 WN
8 VX
8 ???
I'm also thinking there will be a surprise 4th carrier to be awarded slots, maybe DL? Air Canada?
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