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NoAccoutrements 03-07-2017 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 2315475)
You're supposed to put a space after a comma :)

You're supposed to put a punctuation mark at the end of a sentence.

Riverside 03-07-2017 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements (Post 2315549)
You're supposed to put a punctuation mark at the end of a sentence.

You're not supposed to make any sense! 😉

Cruise 03-07-2017 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 2315475)
You're supposed to put a space after a comma :)


Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements (Post 2315549)
You're supposed to put a punctuation mark at the end of a sentence.

Haha, ZING!

Tranquility 03-07-2017 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.

- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.

- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.

- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.

- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.

- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline

Do you agree with my facts?

AYBABTU....

That is all. :D

gringo 03-07-2017 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2315719)
AYBABTU....

That is all. :D

Classic!!!

Flying101 03-07-2017 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.

- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.

- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.

- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.

- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.

- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline

Do you agree with my facts?

Spirit is related to Greyhound, except CDL drivers gets paid more :-) .. Just kidding, well not really BUT can anyone tell me a few good reason why anyone would go to Spirit? Please don't say "Airbus time, blah blab blah"

nichale 03-07-2017 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Torch47x (Post 2315229)
Anything that will "higher" pilot morale

English bro,learn it.

This happens when English is your forth language, and you are still learning!!!

Flying101 03-07-2017 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.

- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.

- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.

- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.

- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.

- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline

Do you agree with my facts?

Kidding aside....

1- New contract = more applicants and a more pilots sticking around. Pilots will still leave for AA, DA, FedEx, SWA, UA, and UPS at the same rate.
2- Spirit is an ultra cost carrier, who should they compare them self to, a regional perhaps?
3- Not low cost, ULTRA LOW COST. You are using SWA (no where close to Spirit) but don't want to use JetBlue (much closer to Spirit). Me confused, why???

Here's a solution... You have a good pilot group and a strong union. Unionize your pilot group and strike! Spring Break would be the best time to strike. I mean sh*t guys, regional CRJ200 pilots are making more.. h*ll first year FOs at a regional are making more. ALPA did pretty well for Delta and UA, its your turn, get them to work!!!!!!!

Flying101 03-07-2017 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Torch47x (Post 2315229)
Anything that will "higher" pilot morale

English bro,learn it.

WoW and Spirit pilots wonder why they can't get a good contract. Torch47x you read that entire post and the only thing you picked up on was "higher". You are one sharp pilot man, good work!

Dear English Profession aka Torch47,

"English bro,learn it." ----> "English bro, learn it." Notice the space? You're one silly pilot. :-)


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