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nichale 03-06-2017 11:46 AM

Some Facts about Spirit. Do you agree?
 
- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.

- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.

- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.

- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.

- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.

- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline

Do you agree with my facts?

ZapBrannigan 03-06-2017 11:53 AM

They're not really facts. They're a bulleted list of opinions that you clearly have strong opinions about.


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spikemath 03-06-2017 12:05 PM

The last bullet point doesn't even make sense. Are you sure you used bing translate properly?

mainlineAF 03-06-2017 01:06 PM

The company could care less about the quality of pilots as long as they're not bending metal. You're a number in a spreadsheet.

AirbusA321Pilot 03-06-2017 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges.

If another airlines buy this place I want us to assimilate into them 100%, I don't want any part of this ridiculous circus clown show to be morphed into anything else.

The reality is if another airline buys Spirit, Spirit will be gone for better or worse for us.

twentyretardten 03-06-2017 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.

- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.

- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.

- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.

- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.

- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline

Do you agree with my facts?

Wow, this is profound...How are you not running an airline?!?:rolleyes:

Torch47x 03-06-2017 04:47 PM

Anything that will "higher" pilot morale

English bro,learn it.

Ed Force One 03-06-2017 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by nichale (Post 2314991)
- For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit...

You mean Delta Song, United Ted, Continental Lite, and USAir MetroJet?

That's what you meant, I'm Sure(jet)

misterpretzel 03-06-2017 05:51 PM

Ironically a lot of people take uberpool without knowing what uberpool is or how it works- they just see the lower fare and are hooked.

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RonnyK320 03-07-2017 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Torch47x (Post 2315229)
Anything that will "higher" pilot morale

English bro,learn it.

You're supposed to put a space after a comma :)


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