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03-16-2017 | 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DickBurns

I'm guessing a number of those ATPs are to foreign pilots that aren't even legal to work here. I didn't the read the article, so I don't know if it says anything about that.

Following NAI model, those "foreign" pilots may soon be flying your routes for new airlines set up under shell corporations on random countries not under US jurisdiction.

We didn't really think it was possible, but... imagine Spirit, but with the company based not in Florida but in a third world country with no aviation oversight and no labor laws. Coming to an airport near you maybe?

03-16-2017 | 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flensr

Following NAI model, those "foreign" pilots may soon be flying your routes for new airlines set up under shell corporations on random countries not under US jurisdiction.

We didn't really think it was possible, but... imagine Spirit, but with the company based not in Florida but in a third world country with no aviation oversight and no labor laws. Coming to an airport near you maybe?

That sounds just like Florida to me. No wonder they moved HQ down there.

03-16-2017 | 10:34 AM

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That sounds just like Florida to me. No wonder they moved HQ down there.

Just because everyone was THINKING that, doesn't mean anyone had to actually SAY it

03-17-2017 | 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by atpcliff

From posters here: FedEx and/or UPS, and UAL have said they have plenty of applicants to fill their needs through about 2019, then they have no idea how they will get enough pilots to fill the slots they are forecasting...

Well, that's a data point we can all take to the bank.

Funny thing. I had a TWA interview scheduled for February, 2000.

03-17-2017 | 07:16 PM

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So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

03-17-2017 | 07:27 PM

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So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

I'm going out on a limb and say no. Since no one responded to your other post.

03-17-2017 | 07:40 PM

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So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

More ALPA initiatives to save the industry while I starve on a substandard contract two years past amendable? Yeah, let me rush on over and get that done....

Yawn.

03-17-2017 | 07:42 PM

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More ALPA initiatives to save the industry while I starve on a substandard contract two years past amendable? Yeah, let me rush on over and get that done....

Yawn.

I like your style. When ALPA national acts like they give a hoot about our fight at Spirit, I might be inclined to care about their latest boogeyman issue.

03-18-2017 | 05:39 AM

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The 1500hr rule affects spirit more than other major airlines. If they are able to lower mins to keep the airline staffed it directly affects our ability to get a contract. Those that pay industry standard are able to be more selective thus while erosion of this rule is still very important it's affects won't be immediately seen by their pilot groups.

It takes less than a minute. You guys can not honestly think that lowering barriers to entry is good for the profession's long term compensation. Be ****ed about our lack of a contract all you want just like I am but this issue is important and your effort to help it is minimal compared to the effect of doing nothing