JimmyBeam

This is for all you out there who are dense. Unless the APU is INOPERABLE You have no excuse to leave me an AC that is stupid hot from the time you left and when I said hello in the jet bridge.
It makes me want to punch a puppy!
On another note I'd say if you don't wear your lanyard at the same time this happens I hope you get Pink Eye!!

CarbonCub

What a low blow to come on here and complain rather than being a professional and taking it to pro standards. Be the bigger person and pursue the professional way to handle this situation!!

Ed Force One

Well, he is right. Ground stations do not seem to be hooking up ground air anymore, and when they do, it's not good enough for the hot summer sun.

And while we're at it, why are people powering the aircraft with the GPU when the APU is already running? I get that it saves 4 tablespoons of gas per hour, but I've already lost count of how many times the ground crew has pulled the GPU without asking and sent the airplane into Spaz Mode.

balakay

Then that is a larger issue than just the minute amount of fuel, its a systemic safety issue having potential negative consequences that needs to be addressed via a safety report to R.E. If you have "lost count" and not submitted a safety report (maybe you already have), then you are part of the problem that isn't being fixed.

OneAndDone

Keeping in mind we got an email from the Chief Pilot a few months ago about pilots not adhering to the limitation of APU bleed on with ground air hooked up. Would you bet a NOI that a pilot would not get in trouble, if he left the bleed on and ground crew finally hooked up the external air, after they left?

Its a slippery slope. That pilot does not know when that plane is going back out and if he lets it sit with the APU bleed on for some time, he is only opening himself up to trouble if/when the rampers decide to do their job and hook the air up.

I hate a hot airplane too but the larger issues are ground crews who don't hook the air up and the 50% of air carts that don't cool.


Having the GPU on while the APU is proving that sweet bleed air helps reduce the load on our APUs. If we are going to run the APU for an hour to keep the plane cool, we should be reducing the load on it with the external power. Who wants to fly a plane with a deferred APU, not this guy.

As far as ground crew yanking the external power on their own, sounds like the same group that won't hook the air up. Im sensing a common thread here with our ground personal, lack of training and caring about their job.

Tranquility

You sound surprised by this; as in you may not fly that much.....

Ed Force One

I don't buy this "causes undue stress" argument for a second. These things were designed, built, and tested to do their job. They are designed to operate in extreme cold temperatures. They are designed to provide electrical loads while on fire. They can certainly provide 2 things simultaneously on the ground.

Tranquility

But...but..but...but...but...but...but.. THE FUEL SAVINGS!!!.

Lemon Jello

False. No names, tail numbers, flight numbers, dates or stations. Just a general observation.

Planepirate

Meh...

It's literally a 1 minute process to start it back up... Flippin crybaby. Unless it's Vegas or somewhere else that is smoldering hot I turn it off. Let the next guy decide if/ when the apu air is needed.