Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2395137)

You guys get so upset!

There will be no industry standard contract. Ever. We aren't industry standard. We are ultra low cost standard. There's 3 of us. Spirit. Frontier. Allegiant. I knew this coming here. Management will NEVER respect us. Our work. our profession. And will NEVER pay us. Allegiant pay is what this place will offer without a strike. Planes will keep flying and they'll keep making record money. We all know Spirit is the cheapest penny-pinching airline ever. Come here because it's better than a regional (it's not really anymore) and move on to a real airline that will pay what we deserve. Simple as that. I knew this coming in. It's just a stepping stone which is exactly what management wants (they even call it juniority to keep costs low) I'm not even frustrated or upset being here anymore. I have zero expectations and none of us should. If you're "stuck here" or "too old" to go to any better airline. Then suck it up and quit complaining. It's not the "Spirit model" to be industy standard. Nothing about spirit is standard. It's all LOW TIER and way BELOW average. It will forever be a discount airline and as long as you work here, You/we are discount pilots. And yes I deserve/expect more. I'm fighting for it by trying like he^ll to get outta here

reality is a b*tch!

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2395266)

If it takes a strike to get industry standard then it takes a strike. Industry standard is completely affordable and spirit can still be a ULCC AND ridiculously profitable. They will not shut this cash cow down to spite us. We are not being unreasonable. The longer they wait the higher the standard goes and the more retro they pay. We get it this cycle or we get it never. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to legally secure an industry standard deal. If that's a strike, so be it.

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2395281)

I've been ready to strike

Originally Posted by Bum Hands (Post 2395306)

Exactly, I'm starting to think that he is not too bright.

Originally Posted by poppachubby (Post 2395314)

well he is just a boy.......

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2394508)

Btw we could have an industry leading contract and still crush the legacies in profit margins.

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2395452)

you tell him pop-a-boner!!!!!

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2395137)

You guys get so upset!

There will be no industry standard contract. Ever. We aren't industry standard. We are ultra low cost standard. There's 3 of us. Spirit. Frontier. Allegiant. I knew this coming here. Management will NEVER respect us. Our work. our profession. And will NEVER pay us. Allegiant pay is what this place will offer without a strike. Planes will keep flying and they'll keep making record money. We all know Spirit is the cheapest penny-pinching airline ever. Come here because it's better than a regional (it's not really anymore) and move on to a real airline that will pay what we deserve. Simple as that. I knew this coming in. It's just a stepping stone which is exactly what management wants (they even call it juniority to keep costs low) I'm not even frustrated or upset being here anymore. I have zero expectations and none of us should. If you're "stuck here" or "too old" to go to any better airline. Then suck it up and quit complaining. It's not the "Spirit model" to be industy standard. Nothing about spirit is standard. It's all LOW TIER and way BELOW average. It will forever be a discount airline and as long as you work here, You/we are discount pilots. And yes I deserve/expect more. I'm fighting for it by trying like he^ll to get outta here

reality is a b*tch!