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SourGrapes 08-04-2017 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 2404751)
This is the ONLY smart thing you have ever posted. What an embarrassment to this group you are. You need to calm down. I suggest a long walk on a short pier to clear yourself. Do it now.......

i take that as threat. have to report you. you need to check your temper.

beech_nut 08-04-2017 03:35 PM

I hate to say it but I think it is time for a change also.

SourGrapes 08-04-2017 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 2404751)
This is the ONLY smart thing you have ever posted. What an embarrassment to this group you are. You need to calm down. I suggest a long walk on a short pier to clear yourself. Do it now.......

what's a matter poppa boner, afraid you gonna lose all those sweet union trip drops???

NK Bumble Bee 08-04-2017 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 2404758)
I hate to say it but I think it is time for a change also.

So, within the railway labor act what else would you have had them do? This is a ridiculous process that is mandated by federal law and looking at every other carrier who's management wants to draw it out it looks very similar. The big difference is that our management, lip service aside, has little interest in the product, customers, or investors. Sorry to bring up old wounds but I think the biggest misstep by the mec was JA and the meltdown of 2015; quid should not have been a handshake! No problem with the current group.

SourGrapes 08-04-2017 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee (Post 2404766)
So, within the railway labor act what else would you have had them do? This is a ridiculous process that is mandated by federal law and looking at every other carrier who's management wants to draw it out it looks very similar. The big difference is that our management, lip service aside, has little interest in the product, customers, or investors. Sorry to bring up old wounds but I think the biggest misstep by the mec was JA and the meltdown of 2015; quid should not have been a handshake! No problem with the current group.

how bout alpa rent some rat patrol trucks to circle the terminals. how bout buy some press. how bout some informational picketing. how bout anything

Qotsaautopilot 08-04-2017 04:10 PM

I don't propose replacing the NC if we want an industry standard deal this decade. Infighting is what the company wants. This process is a game to them and they aren't taking it seriously. Their offers are jokes and presentations are full of lies.

I honestly don't know how you can blantantly lie straight to a mediators face as to how our offer would affect the company when we have financial analysis based on facts. We can't make up these numbers.

SourGrapes 08-04-2017 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2404775)
I don't propose replacing the NC if we want an industry standard deal this decade. Infighting is what the company wants. This process is a game to them and they aren't taking it seriously. Their offers are jokes and presentations are full of lies.

yea, it's alpa national that is the problem. they do not care about us 1%. they have never fought for us and they never will. they screwed us on the last contract and they roll over on everything the company throws at us. they will let us rot while they collect their dues and assessments.

NK Bumble Bee 08-04-2017 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2404772)
how bout alpa rent some rat patrol trucks to circle the terminals. how bout buy some press. how bout some informational picketing. how bout anything

Did you miss the trucks driving around at our new cities, or the new billboards this week?

IWalkJun12 08-04-2017 04:49 PM

Fighting amongst ourselves is what motivates them. They think they can break us. Guess what. That's what BBB and Franke thought to so smoke on that for awhile.
Fly your contract.

Qotsaautopilot 08-04-2017 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee (Post 2404786)
Did you miss the trucks driving around at our new cities, or the new billboards this week?

Two boards in one city and ads in a newspaper. Are newspapers still a thing? It's better than nothing but I want billboards in every one of our cities and trucks making laps 24/7 until a contract is signed.


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