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Old 08-25-2017, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TerrainOnND
No it doesn't. It used to, but you might want to compare Spirit's recent quarterly earnings to competitors.

And no, I'm not just talking about the most recent earnings report, which was affected by the May meltdown. Other airlines that actually invest in their infrastructures and operations have overtaken Spirit's profit margins, even though they pay their pilots significantly more.
So highly compensated pilots and a work group that wants to get the job done for you is the key to a well run operation and higher profit margins for shareholders and bigger bonuses for management? What a concept! Sounds like a win win yet our management still thinks it's 2009 or 2002.

I wish the people that owned this company (shareholders) would realize that the folks they have running this place are outdated and incompetent.
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TerrainOnND
No it doesn't. It used to, but you might want to compare Spirit's recent quarterly earnings to competitors.

And no, I'm not just talking about the most recent earnings report, which was affected by the May meltdown. Other airlines that actually invest in their infrastructures and operations have overtaken Spirit's profit margins, even though they pay their pilots significantly more.
So highly compensated pilots and a work group that wants to get the job done for you is the key to a well run operation and higher profit margins for shareholders and bigger bonuses for management? What a concept! Sounds like a win win yet our management still thinks it's 2009 or 2002.

I wish the people that owned this company (shareholders) would realize that the folks they have running this place are outdated and incompetent.

Do away with this worthless management and get your pilots on board. Yes CASM may rise slightly but RASM will explode when the public realizes they can actually count on spirit completing the flight they paid for. Cost associated with cancellations and rebooking would plummet. The RASM increase and lowered costs from IROPs would increase profits even with an industry standard or dare I say industry leading pilot CBA.

Pilots happy
Passengers happy
Management happy
Shareholders happy
Company growing.

Or we can just keep crushing the middle class and watch another would be success story flush down the tubes all because you hate labor, unions, and pilots
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:02 AM
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Bottom line, it's not my job to support the f'n business model. Pay me what I'm worth and what we deserve. If the model can't support that, then mgmt you do your f'n job and find a way to tweak the model so it can afford it.
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Old 08-26-2017, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
Bottom line, it's not my job to support the f'n business model. Pay me what I'm worth and what we deserve. If the model can't support that, then mgmt you do your f'n job and find a way to tweak the model so it can afford it.
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Old 08-26-2017, 08:52 AM
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quick tip-when we strike, buy a cheap pair of black shoes. don't wear your expensive work shoes, you'll burn a hole through them in few days on the hot pavement. this does not apply to the persons who wear reeboks now.......
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
quick tip-when we strike, buy a cheap pair of black shoes. don't wear your expensive work shoes, you'll burn a hole through them in few days on the hot pavement. this does not apply to the persons who wear reeboks now.......
Forget that lets go get a "Signing Bonus" at one of the RJ operators. We could score $5k/$10k right! LOL
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Forget that lets go get a "Signing Bonus" at one of the RJ operators. We could score $5k/$10k right! LOL
Probably get hired at a legacy quicker that way too.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Forget that lets go get a "Signing Bonus" at one of the RJ operators. We could score $5k/$10k right! LOL
Hey, remember when alpa got FO's a higher signing bonus than captains??? classic alpa........


$3000 for 41 months of nego=$73/month......winning!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8mw6dIKjhE
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
Hey, remember when alpa got FO's a higher signing bonus than captains??? classic alpa........


$3000 for 41 months of nego=$73/month......winning!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8mw6dIKjhE
Yeah but you have to remember, there weren't Internet forum retro keeper tracker counters back then. It's totally different now.

Oh and FO's got more because ALPA was so good that it negotiated DOWN first year FO pay.
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
quick tip-when we strike, buy a cheap pair of black shoes. don't wear your expensive work shoes...
"Expensive"? Like > $19.99 expensive?
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