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FlyingOkra 08-31-2017 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2422708)
I can't tell you how many times I've called them back after a missed call for JRM to find out I'm #6 in line so I hang up.

After the summer meltdown of 2015, their big fix was to get the new phone menu that allows you to select current day vs next day, hotel issues vs other issues etc. Hey management: I hope you know that nobody selects the "next day" option because all the current day callers just hop in front of you. You could literally be on hold indefinitely. Once again our management has spent money on a stupid idea that doesn't work. I am so sick of hearing "please listen closely as the menu has recently changed", when it hasn't changed in over 2 years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The lack of staffing and experience (mostly because of turnover) in crew scheduling is the reason for every meltdown this company has experienced. It is so obvious yet it hasn't been fixed. Things like this scare me the most about this company.

They also went from 15 Crew Schedulers to 45 after that meltdown. But who knows how many they retain or how much they've grown that number along with the airline.

putzin 08-31-2017 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2422926)
They also went from 15 Crew Schedulers to 45 after that meltdown. But who knows how many they retain or how much they've grown that number along with the airline.


Closer to "60" I've heard, but regardless they still suck.

FlyingOkra 08-31-2017 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2422941)
Closer to "60" I've heard, but regardless they still suck.

45 was a Direct quote from Carol shortly after the meltdown, but maybe they're up to 60 since then.

FML666 08-31-2017 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2422708)
After the summer meltdown of 2015, their big fix was to get the new phone menu that allows you to select current day vs next day, hotel issues vs other issues etc. Hey management: I hope you know that nobody selects the "next day" option because all the current day callers just hop in front of you. You could literally be on hold indefinitely. Once again our management has spent money on a stupid idea that doesn't work. I am so sick of hearing "please listen closely as the menu has recently changed", when it hasn't changed in over 2 years.

I chose the "current day" option last night and still went backwards in the queue while i was on hold.



Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2422941)
Closer to "60" I've heard, but regardless they still suck.

In their defense I'm pretty sure that even with that many schedulers they still only have 2 on duty at a time, they rotate every 30 minutes, and each shift change takes 15 minutes to complete.

gringo 08-31-2017 05:04 PM

In defense of the schedulers, it's really not their fault. A recent class of about 20 had 1, yes 1, new hire with previous airline scheduling experience. Everyone else was off the street with literally zero airline experience. I'm talking guys coming over from Verizon and Sprint stores. Most of the schedulers sincerely try to do a good job, but the hours are long, the office can get kind of high-schoolish and turnover is high.

Furthermore, not only do they have to schedule the pilots, but they're also scheduling the flight attendants as well.

Blame the system that put these people in this position in the first place. Most of them will eventually learn, but it's truly a "baptism by fire" over there in Miramar.

These guys are simply overworked, under paid and waaaay under trained.

putzin 08-31-2017 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2423112)
In defense of the schedulers, it's really not their fault. A recent class of about 20 had 1, yes 1, new hire with previous airline scheduling experience. Everyone else was off the street with literally zero airline experience. I'm talking guys coming over from Verizon and Sprint stores. Most of the schedulers sincerely try to do a good job, but the hours are long, the office can get kind of high-schoolish and turnover is high.

Furthermore, not only do they have to schedule the pilots, but they're also scheduling the flight attendants as well.

Blame the system that put these people in this position in the first place. Most of them will eventually learn, but it's truly a "baptism by fire" over there in Miramar.

These guys are simply overworked, under paid and waaaay under trained.

Yeah, that came out wrong. I get along with all those that I interact with and know they get it from both sides. I do blame the system and not specifically them for sure.

IWalkJun12 09-01-2017 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by FML666 (Post 2422327)
I had 6 days at the end of August and 4 at the beginning of September so the 4 day in September got TX2-ed. Had to drop the latter of my August trips for life stuff but don't have anything specific to do 9/1-9/4 and I've been called about JMs 4 times in the past 36 hours. I could really use some 200% but I'm burned out from doing everyone else's job as well as my own this last trip so working for free or even straight pay isn't an attractive option.

What do you mean by doing everyone else's job?

Chimpy 09-01-2017 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by IWalkJun12 (Post 2423243)
What do you mean by doing everyone else's job?

Calling for Fuel
Calling for Paperwork
Calling scheduling asking where x,y,z crewmember is
Calling transportation because no one scheduled it.
Calling hotel connections because the hotel you got dropped off at has no reservation.
Calling Payroll because they shorted you pay.
Calling training because you dequaled

You know, the usual stuff lol (at least im assuming thats what he meant).

Planepirate 09-01-2017 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2422941)
Closer to "60" I've heard, but regardless they still suck.

I don't know if "suck" is the right word. We all suck when we are new to something. They just need to staff adequately and pay to retain them. Most all of my interactions with scheduling have been pleasant.

Dukeuno 09-01-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2423376)
I don't know if "suck" is the right word. We all suck when we are new to something. They just need to staff adequately and pay to retain them. Most all of my interactions with scheduling have been pleasant.

This ^^^, most of the schedulers I have had to deal with have been very nice ( trust me It was not this way at my regional I came from, they were actually hostile there at some points). They have a job to do here, so blame the system not the the scheduler.


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