FML666

I've never dealt with the issue so I'm curious how the pay works if you picked up a JM trip on days that were dropped for transition conflict.

Is the TX pay tied to the specific days dropped or is it a monthly credit? In other words would you be working for free since you're already receiving the TX credit?

JimmyBeam

I believe it would be the same as carry in from the month prior with a conflict. Essentially working for free until original line value was reached.

gringo

Working a JRM on days marked TX2 (transition drop) in effect means you're working for triple time.

If you have a carry in line and have it dropped for transition then the math changes (you have to break out that convoluted formula) but if you're working a pure transition drop, you get paid both for the drop and anything you fly over it, including JRM.

FML666

I had 6 days at the end of August and 4 at the beginning of September so the 4 day in September got TX2-ed. Had to drop the latter of my August trips for life stuff but don't have anything specific to do 9/1-9/4 and I've been called about JMs 4 times in the past 36 hours. I could really use some 200% but I'm burned out from doing everyone else's job as well as my own this last trip so working for free or even straight pay isn't an attractive option.

gringo

You wouldn't be working for free. You'd be making triple pay with those JRMs, in effect.

TX2 gets paid at whatever credit the trip was worth. Your monthly Block time dropped but your credit remains the same.

Any flying you do on top of that TX2 gets paid on top of your already existing credit.

If you have a 72 hour hard line (block and credit are the same) and you TX2 an 18 hour 4 day, your schedule would read 72 hours credit, 54 hours block.

Let's just say then they offer you the exact same trip only now at JRM rates (it happens) this 18 hour 4 day now becomes a 36 hour (credit) 18 hour (block) which goes on top of your already existing credit of 72/54.

So at the end of the day your schedule would read 108 hours credit, 72 hours block.

I'm still amazed at how many relatively senior Captains I've flown with who've been here 15+ years who didn't understand how this works. "Been here 18 years and I never broke 100 hours credit!"

FML666

Thanks gringo, the explanation is much appreciated!

My financial situation right now is a smoking pile of rubble so for as much as it might anger some people I have to find a way to get out from under it.

FlyingOkra

That's all extra Credit above and beyond. Take advantage of the situation.

25.J.2

Any pilot who is junior assigned will be paid for such junior assignment over and above his monthly guarantee, at 200 percent of his trip pay credit, in accordance with Section 4.C or 4.D. With Crew Scheduling’s concurrence, he may be restored an equal number of days off.

Chimpy

No worries, we need triple pay to basically be paid like a legacy pilot (when you include their DC & PS plans)

FML666

Ain't that the truth? I just told a friend of mine a few days ago that I'd expect at least a 50% pay raise but then I went and did the math and realized that that rate would still be "industry lagging"...

Depressing to say the least.

Chimpy

Only thing more depressing is when they cancel orders because they cant staff them...........

Anyway, DELTA is having a meet & greet October 20&21. 1200 slots available