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Acehole 08-31-2017 01:20 PM

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Cal Naughton Jr 08-31-2017 01:28 PM

Haaaaaaaahahaha

Chimpy 08-31-2017 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2422979)
What mass exodus? The one that everyone's been talking about for two years now?

We have had 76 guys washout and that many +/- leave. Attrition is an issie, especially at our size.

We used to have job fairs that got sold out, we now have meet & greets where guys are hired on the spot. Lol. Think about that

putzin 08-31-2017 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2422979)
What mass exodus? The one that everyone's been talking about for two years now?

Oh, I'd love to here the reason why we're increasing hiring to 50 a month and 24 a month in upgrades.

Please, do tell....

Chimpy 08-31-2017 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2423034)
Oh, I'd love to here the reason why we're increasing hiring to 50 a month and 24 a month in upgrades.

Please, do tell....

62/month.........;)

Judge Smails 08-31-2017 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2422861)
Company is making it clear where expectations should be, with the gojet email today. Time horizon is at least 1 year for the "pilot pathway program", meaning they expect to be able to meet hiring requirements with flow-through no later than a year from now. Like our shortened training program, we're going to do flow-through in one or two years where it takes "legacy carriers" "six or more years", according to the email.

Now, for the management of expectations, they're also telegraphing their perspective regarding anything remotely "industry standard" with the contract, because we are "different". Here is the relevant paragraph from Rodosta:



Namely, this place will never have industry standard compensation, and we're going to deal with the hiring issue caused by low compensation by having a 1-year flow-through from gojet. Anyone coming here needs to understand that "the ULCC model" precludes a contract or compensation anywhere near what other A320 pilots receive flying the same planes over the same routes.

Good timing for company mgt to set expectations, exactly 1 week before our last mediated negotiation session begins. Once again its official, discount pilots are part of the business model and as Ryan stated in the above quote, anyone coming or remaining here needs to be ok with that.

Dude you need to find a spine. Like I told Super EZ E, here's what one looks like in case you're unfamiliar:

http://doctorspainreliefsystems.com/...Spine-Long.png

Let's get started...Here's the link to submit your 'YES' Strike Vote:

www.alpa.org

....I'm probably stupid for thinking you even know your ALPA number.

Feng 08-31-2017 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2423034)
Oh, I'd love to here the reason why we're increasing hiring to 50 a month and 24 a month in upgrades.

Please, do tell....

The reason is because that's the plan per the ULCC model. Medium to high'ish attrition that result in movement / short upgrades. A stepping stone to better jobs.

24 a month upgrades huh? Remember 2 years ago people on here talking about mass exodus and stagnation, don't ever plan on upgrading?

gringo 08-31-2017 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2423034)
Oh, I'd love to here the reason why we're increasing hiring to 50 a month and 24 a month in upgrades.

Please, do tell....

They need 30 new qualified warm butts at the end of the month. So to account for training failures and no-shows they hire 50 at the beginning.

As for upgrades, I've been hearing since January that the company was 80-100 Captains short. They figured they would be able to get through the summer lean like last time. May proved them wrong.

So now they're catching up to what they should have been doing since last year.

Qotsaautopilot 08-31-2017 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2423043)
The reason is because that's the plan per the ULCC model. Medium to high'ish attrition that result in movement / short upgrades. A stepping stone to better jobs.

24 a month upgrades huh? Remember 2 years ago people on here talking about mass exodus and stagnation, don't ever plan on upgrading?

What exactly is your angle here? All you do is come on here trying to discredit fellow pilots in every single post you make.

OpenClimb 08-31-2017 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2423167)
What exactly is your angle here? All you do is come on here trying to discredit fellow pilots in every single post you make.

It's actually a common defense mechanism for an insecure person. Offer no independent opinion. Wait until others post an opinion and then pick it apart from the sidelines. Doesn't take much talent to play the role of Monday morning quarterback.

Don't take it personally. Most of the time, people who engage in this practice have a pretty miserable life. Once I get past the my initial reaction of frustration, I usually end up pitying their pathetic life situation.


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