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Feng 09-01-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 2423553)
Does Spirit also have discount senior managers and discount corporate executives?

They are worth what their bosses offer to pay them. If they don't like it, they are free to withhold their services by quitting and finding employment elsewhere.

Perhaps the $ needed to attract management talent to work at Spirit is more than required at SWA. Perhaps it's a more challenging position.

They're not labor in an ULCC, they're here to manage the ULC labor.

Qotsaautopilot 09-01-2017 06:00 PM

They're compensation makes its way to the bottom line just like anyone else's. I can tell you being a pilot at spirit is more challenging than being a pilot at a legacy or southwest with the support we are given. Management likes to call it an increased level of captains authority. We don't just deserve industry standard we deserve industry leading. They are lucky we are only asking for standard.

As far as withholding services: it's no ones intent but if spirit continues to feel entitled to discount pilots we ALL fully plan on removing our services when legally allowed to do so. It's up to them. They can make it right now, or we can force them to and they can get their walking papers after taking the pilots to a strike and losing millions letting the airline meltdown a few times a year.

flensr 09-01-2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 2423553)
Does Spirit also have discount senior managers and discount corporate executives?

Mostly no. Because apparently that is NOT part of the ULCC business model. I'd bet a couple dozen donuts that upper management pay was not part of the company's presentation at the mediation session. I sure hope it was part of our presentation...

Qotsaautopilot 09-02-2017 04:38 AM

I couldn't care less what our C suite gets paid. Just don't cry poor when all we are asking is to be compensated to industry standard.

Chimpy 09-02-2017 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by SkywardAZ (Post 2423589)
Nope Bob makes more then Kelly at SWA.

*than


Sorry, lol

Chimpy 09-02-2017 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2423672)
They're compensation makes its way to the bottom line just like anyone else's. I can tell you being a pilot at spirit is more challenging than being a pilot at a legacy or southwest with the support we are given. Management likes to call it an increased level of captains authority. We don't just deserve industry standard we deserve industry leading. They are lucky we are only asking for standard.

As far as withholding services: it's no ones intent but if spirit continues to feel entitled to discount pilots we ALL fully plan on removing our services when legally allowed to do so. It's up to them. They can make it right now, or we can force them to and they can get their walking papers after taking the pilots to a strike and losing millions letting the airline meltdown a few times a year.


Fng nailed it!!!

Feng 09-02-2017 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2423803)
I couldn't care less what our C suite gets paid. Just don't cry poor when all we are asking is to be compensated to industry standard.

Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?

AllOva736 09-02-2017 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2423891)
Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?

15+ major airlines huh? There is 10 if you stretch it and 5 of them have out dated contracts you moron. God you're stupid

Squeaky banana 09-02-2017 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2423891)
Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?

Idiot troll... Go away moron!

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Feng 09-02-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2423907)
15+ major airlines huh? There is 10 if you stretch it and 5 of them have out dated contracts you moron. God you're stupid

Oh, and here I thought I heard rumblings about how an airbus pilot is an airbus pilot is an airbus pilot regardless which airline you work for. And I didn't know an "out dated" labor contract removes an airline from the airline industry.

I'm so glad there are good folks on here to educate me.


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