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Old 09-01-2017 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
Does Spirit also have discount senior managers and discount corporate executives?
They are worth what their bosses offer to pay them. If they don't like it, they are free to withhold their services by quitting and finding employment elsewhere.

Perhaps the $ needed to attract management talent to work at Spirit is more than required at SWA. Perhaps it's a more challenging position.

They're not labor in an ULCC, they're here to manage the ULC labor.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 06:00 PM
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They're compensation makes its way to the bottom line just like anyone else's. I can tell you being a pilot at spirit is more challenging than being a pilot at a legacy or southwest with the support we are given. Management likes to call it an increased level of captains authority. We don't just deserve industry standard we deserve industry leading. They are lucky we are only asking for standard.

As far as withholding services: it's no ones intent but if spirit continues to feel entitled to discount pilots we ALL fully plan on removing our services when legally allowed to do so. It's up to them. They can make it right now, or we can force them to and they can get their walking papers after taking the pilots to a strike and losing millions letting the airline meltdown a few times a year.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
Does Spirit also have discount senior managers and discount corporate executives?
Mostly no. Because apparently that is NOT part of the ULCC business model. I'd bet a couple dozen donuts that upper management pay was not part of the company's presentation at the mediation session. I sure hope it was part of our presentation...
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Old 09-02-2017 | 04:38 AM
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I couldn't care less what our C suite gets paid. Just don't cry poor when all we are asking is to be compensated to industry standard.
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Old 09-02-2017 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
Nope Bob makes more then Kelly at SWA.
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Sorry, lol
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Old 09-02-2017 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
They're compensation makes its way to the bottom line just like anyone else's. I can tell you being a pilot at spirit is more challenging than being a pilot at a legacy or southwest with the support we are given. Management likes to call it an increased level of captains authority. We don't just deserve industry standard we deserve industry leading. They are lucky we are only asking for standard.

As far as withholding services: it's no ones intent but if spirit continues to feel entitled to discount pilots we ALL fully plan on removing our services when legally allowed to do so. It's up to them. They can make it right now, or we can force them to and they can get their walking papers after taking the pilots to a strike and losing millions letting the airline meltdown a few times a year.

Fng nailed it!!!
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Old 09-02-2017 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I couldn't care less what our C suite gets paid. Just don't cry poor when all we are asking is to be compensated to industry standard.
Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?
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Old 09-02-2017 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Feng
Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?
15+ major airlines huh? There is 10 if you stretch it and 5 of them have out dated contracts you moron. God you're stupid
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Old 09-02-2017 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Feng
Yes, industry standard. But picking the three or four airlines with the best compensation out of the 15+ out there and then averaging their compensation, and then calling it an industry standard, does not actually make it industry standard. Surely you see that right?
Idiot troll... Go away moron!

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Old 09-02-2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
15+ major airlines huh? There is 10 if you stretch it and 5 of them have out dated contracts you moron. God you're stupid
Oh, and here I thought I heard rumblings about how an airbus pilot is an airbus pilot is an airbus pilot regardless which airline you work for. And I didn't know an "out dated" labor contract removes an airline from the airline industry.

I'm so glad there are good folks on here to educate me.
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