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And just to clarify one other point, I do have 121 background. I did do 135 years ago, but I done of the more 121 training than part 135 training. Also had part 141 training for my initial PP-MEI. So yes, I do know what a structured training is supposed to look like.
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Originally Posted by TheDudeabide
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And just to clarify one other point, I do have 121 background. I did do 135 years ago, but I done of the more 121 training than part 135 training. Also had part 141 training for my initial PP-MEI. So yes, I do know what a structured training is supposed to look like.
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Patron, but thanks for asking
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
(Post 2461671)
Ps. When I was in charge of hiring at my 135 company, I hired furloughed and retired s, corporate pilots, flight instructors, and brand new off the street pilots. I had equally as many training busts with furloughed s as a group as I did with the other groups. Our in house training program was unintentionally almost exactly the same footprint as Spirits training program. In my opinion, a pilots success in any training program is more related to their ability to work hard in training, their attitude, and their willingness to learn than it is to where they got their previous training.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
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Id like to reiterate that it’s not all corporate pilots but the above is straight from someone that is allegedly currently training corporate pilots.
Doesn’t anyone remember not so long ago Spirit rarely hired corporate pilots? Company reps would flat out tell them at the job fairs that their chances of getting an interview were slim. I believe the new hire program is severely lacking and I’m not trying to insult any singular pilot that might have come from corporate because we all know must of us would suck it up big time if we went from 121 to corporate. All I am saying is that corporate pilots have historically posed a more risky hire and that is fact. It’s not an insult to anyone’s personal background I can tell you that while the FAA 'approves' of all the above Transport Canada doesn't tolerate this kind of kindergarten crap and holds their guys to much higher standards. TC even knows how to properly train stalls in a jet. But that's a different story. If a corporate background guy is considering NK you need an honest self-assessment of if you will put in the effort to get through training. Just about any idiot can pull back and make the houses get little. Are you willing, right or wrong, to do it our way, with our flows, and with our calls? |
Again, our **** pay acn attract quality applicants, PERIOD, END OF STORY
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
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Again, our **** pay acn attract quality applicants, PERIOD, END OF STORY
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Higher quality candidates aren’t applying because of the horrendous pay, but also because the word has gotten out that mathematically, someone hired now won’t upgrade for more than 10 years and rising!
Once this aircraft order is complete in 2021, the most junior captain will be around #1600 seniority. According to the last vacancy bid, we have almost 1900 pilots. Over the next 7 years, we have less than 100 retirements. lol And don’t count on attrition because as you get closer to upgrading, more and more of that attrition is guys below you leaving, thus not getting you any closer to upgrading. |
Originally Posted by Spear it
(Post 2463571)
Higher quality candidates aren’t applying because of the horrendous pay, but also because the word has gotten out that mathematically, someone hired now won’t upgrade for more than 10 years and rising!
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