Our Washout rate is now over 8%
 

This is really frustrating to hear. This is really unfair for all involved.


These inexperienced guys are just in over their head and it isnt really their fault. A washout on their record is really unfortunate.

Our instructors(whom all do one hell of a great job) are having to go above & beyond and it still isnt helping some.

Lastly, its not good for our company and I hate to see us wasting resources on hiring guys who cant get through training. Its wasting valuable time & resources and how the hell are we going to grow by 60-ish guys a month if almost 5-10 guys a month wash out.

10 guys per month would be almost 20%...just sayin

Yeah I typed 10 I dunno why, lol. Make it 5

I think the growth plan only requires about 22-25. We are hiring 60 just to keep up with attrition and training failures

Solid business plan, SMH

Yup, the failures are "baked" into the hiring numbers.

Caveat Emptor, new hires....This is exactly why people have been telling new hires to stay away on these forums, its not all about just being negative as some have said, its being brutally honest.

Spirit's training process has been and remains the same. They tell you this in the interview and you know exactly how many sims you will see when you show up, heck you know it when you accept the job. If you think your 2000 hours won't have any issues, its on you.

I don't feel bad for anyone who doesn't make it because everyone needs to make decisions in this industry and realizing your own limitations is one of the most important skills we can have.

Spirit could careless if a pilot fails. They have NOTHING vested. Thanks for coming to Spirit here's your pay for the week.....$7

Has anyone ever received an additional sim session before the checkride?

My understanding is you get to do over two training events before they terminate you. Those could be sims they could be paper tiger and a sim or any combination. If you need three EXTRA events they let you go. The wash out rate is people needing three. Many get through that have retrained one or two, or even pinked their type. You may have a job in that situation but you are stuck at spirit for life.

This shows how really bad the training program is combined with the lack of talent we are currently attracting. When close to 10% need to do over more than two entire events you know something is wrong. Who knows how many guys are on the line that just barely squeaked by. I also know of a guy that had some training issues but made it through in the left seat and then was let go on IOE because he couldn't make it all work in the right seat after extra IOE.

This info is what I've been told and seen happen but I don't know if it's the official process for training issues and ultimately termination

Most were not captains at their previous job but some were and that scares the crap out of me for the flying public on regional airlines and also people spending thousands on a 135 charter. The latter thinks they are getting a premium product yet the captain can't make it through training at cheapo air.

Thanks a lot.