Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2455410)

Yeah? IF say a deal was offered 2 years ago at DOS for a 20% raise and then 3% each year thereafter...for the sake of simplicity, say it went from $100/hr to $120 to $123 to $127...$131...$135 to $139 by year 5.

If the contract gets dragged on for 5 years. Do you see the final result being getting an 40% raise to $140 or for some reason the company will cave and give you an 80% raise to $180?

I'm not sure the "we're winning because the ask just went up" holds any water as far as how much more money you'll actually get in your pocket when it's all said and done considering the time value of money lost.

I think at some point, ALPA will use Spirit as a case study of what not to do during negotiations. Whether you deserve it or not, I don't see the NMB and the administration allowing a strike when a 20%-40% raise is/was offered.

JMHO

Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2455440)

AA’s big failure was always swinging for the fences. Delta did the opposite, slowly building upon each successive contract. I’ve said time and time again on here take the short term small wins. Collectively they are worth more.

Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2455467)

We arent swinging for the fence, we are asking for a pretty Standard compensation pack, actually, less than that really........

Originally Posted by TerrainOnND (Post 2455523)

And the company wouldn't even offer something close to that. This is who Spirit has always been, who they are, and who they will continue to be. Anyone who thinks it will become anything different should probably apply to a different airline.

Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2455561)

I think 80% of us already have...........

You can bet your ass UAL will be looking more closely at Applications from Spirit Pilots. UAL wants to hire 1200, realistically it will be 800. Even 100 guys from here as well as our guys going to other carriers will bury this ****hole.

Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2455561)

I think 80% of us already have...........

You can bet your ass UAL will be looking more closely at Applications from Spirit Pilots. UAL wants to hire 1200, realistically it will be 800. Even 100 guys from here as well as our guys going to other carriers will bury this ****hole.

Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2455949)

You forgot option C). Buy Spirit at a discount, get 1,800 pilots + 100 Airbii + orders, eliminate competition that's dragging down fares.

Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2454896)

Who LOVED Bobs Answer to the one guy who asked how productivity would be increased if say we had SWA work rules?


Bob goes on an incoherent ramble about gate space in FLL. Absolutely mind boggling

Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2455949)

You forgot option C). Buy Spirit at a discount, get 1,800 pilots + 100 Airbii + orders, eliminate competition that's dragging down fares.