We still plan on growing 18-20% in 2018. I'm patiently waiting for Spring /Summer schedule. We will once again be short-staffed.

Attrition is only going up and less and less people are choosing to come to this dump.

During the call yesterday an investor asked if we are staffed properly, lol. What do they think Bob is going to say?.

Maybe they should ask themselves.......

If an airline has to sue its Pilots to force them to cover open flying, are they properly staffed? Hmmmmmmmm.


Lastly, you say “the operation is running fine”, lol the hell it is. Last I checked May was still 2017 and like 2017, 2018 will have a summer schedule too. Simply wont be enough staff. We can all go above and beyond but math is math......

Exactly, I say the same thing and everyone thinks I’m crazy. This low cost management regime only sees $$$ and if the bottom line still looks good and flights are being covered and applicants keep applying then the company has zero incentive to give two craps about what we deserve.

Well then after this earnings call maybe the medaitor/NMB should do their job

I don't disagree, but the math is the math. It's a business. That's all wall street cares about. We have plenty of "super pilots" here that will run out at a moments notice and cover trips. This is no secret. I actually had a DFW guy tell me the union told him to do it! Another guy from ACY told me his life is based off 125 credit every month. So we are actually staffed properly when you factor in all the "super pilots"! Contract 2020 :rolleyes:

Lol, I know who you’re talking about but no worries, Im at 147 block hours for the year so We cancel each other out, lol

Huh. So strange that a guy would "actually tell you that the union told him to do it".

Here is a quote from the chairman of our union.

"Make no mistake, we MUST and WILL continue to go the extra mile to fully obey the TRO and make every effort to restore the operation. We will continue to pick up open time, accept junior assignments and answer crew scheduling because doing so is in our best interests."

And no, there isn't some super secret squirrel code of say this but do that. The union, our union, meaning you and me, have collectively made a decision to bend over backwards to help the operation in anyway possible. You can argue about the merits of this stance (however I would implore you not to do it on this forum), but the stance is clear.

If you want to retort, consider a PM vs a forum reply.

PS I do agree with your first sentence. To them, we are just cost centers. Machines to be used and abused for maximum profit. Welcome to employment.

Of course the union said that. What choice did they have? But the union didn't tell everyone to stop picking up open time in the first place. That was a result of a pilot group that got sick of "helping out" a company that treats them like garbage. Why did everyone all of a sudden have a change of heart?

There was this big panic about, "We have to get back to the negotiating table!" Well, what did the negotiating table ever bring in the fist place? And what is it producing now?

Look, these *******s are going to have to do something. It isnt 2008, they are absolutely going to F—— themselves come spring & Summer. All the legacies are hiring, our newhires are washing out at an alarming rate and growth for 2018 is 20%?, lol. Good FUKING LUCK

I know, I'm just saying its disingenuous for people to pretend that our members who are following our unions advice to help out are somehow pulling it out of their butt. As a union, that is our current strategy. Helping as much as we can. I happen to agree that it hasn't worked, but the answer isn't to respond to individuals by feigning ignorance of our current stance.

If you think we are on the wrong path, sowing discord amongst our group is hurting more than helping. Go to a union meeting and speak up. We are stronger together than apart, even if you disagree with our strategy. Its better than open infighting. Together we stand, divided we fall. You know, that whole UNION thing.

All I'm saying is the union has given the only guidance it legally can give. What individuals do with their time off is up to them.